What is the meaning of life?
to obain as many elephants as possible.
To do mildly amusing things all day, in an un-productive way.
To beat me at cyber battles ;D
42.
???
That's what it says on google!
Well, this is obviously a humourus topic, because no mere mortal could ever answer such a question. Basically, i have two main thoeries:
1. Life is simple, but man is searching for answers that do not exist. We find it hard to except that life is meaningless (we are here to pointlessly breed and evolve till our tragic demise), so we create ideas about life that give it meaning (hope).
2. There is a creator and thus a great plan. Everyone has a destiny and a purpose in life. The meaning in this case; life is beautiful and full of mystery, which we are meant to understand and enjoy. A spiritual journey, that explores the ups and downs of life - from this we gain enlightenment :)
Personally, i like the second one...dont know why ??? I do not belong to an official religion, but you cant doubt the existence of a creator. That would be foolish. Life is too marvelous to just happen and life without purpose isnt worth living.
Hope i have been helpful ;)
What about if existence is actually insanely complicated, and our minds can't comprehend anything but the dimensions that they are designed to comprehend?
Purpose of life:
for me - to create multiplayer games
for you - to play them ;D
(joke)
Quote from: Parsley on September 08, 2005, 01:29:21 PM
What about if existence is actually insanely complicated, and our minds can't comprehend anything but the dimensions that they are designed to comprehend?
My point exactly. Like fish in a pond; only aware of their little world, never knowing what is above the surface. Really, us humans arent that intelligent. We just have enough intelligence to think we are :D This is a philosophical argument, that i think supports the idea of a creator. I mean, things are boring when you know everything.
Quote from: matlu on September 08, 2005, 01:30:55 PM
Purpose of life:
for me - to create multiplayer games
for you - to play them ;D
(joke)
:D
Quote from: Bakster on September 08, 2005, 12:50:41 PM
42.
???
That's what it says on google!
Come's from the book "Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy", in which a computer was asked the great question and after billions of years, calculated this answer :D
And conincedently, I read an article today which said that this number is a mojor factor in the equation that caused the universe...or something ???
1. Still the answer.
2. Mojor? I noticed it i just couldn't be bothered to change it, thought I'd give you something to moan about.
3. I'm not talking about fine tuning or whatever...It was actually some equation to do with the start of the universe in which 42 was involved...pfft, i never said it was a good article...
Yes, HGTTG does suck a load of balls.
Yes, we are intelligent as we are not aware of anything else that could be more intelligent than us. And we are aware of everything else that is more stupider than us (elephants, mooses, anima...)
How do you know? For all you know, the Creator could be a pot smoking douche. :D
It would explain a lot.
BTW we do have a purpose we is easy to see if taught in the right way.
and i know why people doubt religion because religion causes wars am i right?
Quote from: anima on September 09, 2005, 01:19:42 AM
1. That book sucks.
2. You should spell check dodger ;)
3. I think you're talking about fine tuning. It involves constants that determine the development of time and space. Our universe seems to have been tuned so finely ,that its impossible to be a random outcome like evolutionists suggest
It's not an impossible random outcome, just a highly improbable one. And that doesn't mean squat. For all we know, in the chaotic multiverse there could be an infinite number of failed universes. If we were in one of them, we wouldn't be alive to ponder it. Roll a dice enough times and no matter how many sides it has, it will eventually land at least once on all its different sides. I think that argument you're referring to isn't talking about the universe though, but rather specifically the development of life on earth. The comparison is even easier to illustrate there, though. There are probably billions of galaxies with no life, so it's not surprising that at least one galaxy had just the right conditions form within it, in One of its many solar systems, on One of those planets. The odds of life not having formed, Somewhere, are astronomical.
Also you're lame for thinking pwned is short for pawned.
Who said pawned? lol! :D
Quote from: TheMcCool on September 07, 2005, 05:56:22 AM
To do mildly amusing things all day, in an un-productive way.
This is the correct answer! ;D
Exactly... forget about school, education, work, and money.
From now on, you must devote your life to pranking people, playing games, and drinking your life away.
Who needs money?
Quote from: TheMcCool on September 10, 2005, 02:35:43 AM
It's not an impossible random outcome, just a highly improbable one. And that doesn't mean squat. For all we know, in the chaotic multiverse there could be an infinite number of failed universes. If we were in one of them, we wouldn't be alive to ponder it. Roll a dice enough times and no matter how many sides it has, it will eventually land at least once on all its different sides. I think that argument you're referring to isn't talking about the universe though, but rather specifically the development of life on earth. The comparison is even easier to illustrate there, though. There are probably billions of galaxies with no life, so it's not surprising that at least one galaxy had just the right conditions form within it, in One of its many solar systems, on One of those planets. The odds of life not having formed, Somewhere, are astronomical.
Also you're lame for thinking pwned is short for pawned.
Hmm. The multi-verse theory was a considered explanation for the improbable odds. However, the theory soon suffered the same problems and astrophysisists were once again baffled by the matter.
See, the main concept to consider is that space and time are linked (space-time). They are calculated as co-existing properties of the universal structure. So, space had a definite beginning, albeit time must also have had a beginning. A 'place'with no time and space can only leave way for an architect (the creator).
Unable to except a 'holy' creator, the theorists have now suggested a higher intelligence to be the architect of this universe or what we assume is a universe. Ironic isnt it? In an attempt to deny a creator, we have once again created one.
As for: "The odds of life not having formed, Somewhere, are astronomical." Actually the odds of intelligent life existing are astronimical. The approx odds of a protein molecule forming at random is
1/10^113. Mathematicians dismiss the chance of
1/10^50 impossible :D
In future, please do not
try and correct me in a subject that you clearly know little about.
You are foolish not to consider that 'pawned' was a typo ;)
BTW, this is a nice piece of philosophy that might get you thinking. If you discovered a watch in the soil you would know it was created, not just the outcome of random events. However, why is it you believe a a protein molecule which is infintely more complex, is just a product of randomness?
Quote from: anima on September 10, 2005, 06:37:14 PM
Hmm. The multi-verse theory was a considered explanation for the improbable odds. However, the theory soon suffered the same problems and astrophysisists were once again baffled by the matter.
See, the main concept to consider is that space and time are linked (space-time). They are calculated as co-existing properties of the universal structure. So, space had a definite beginning, albeit time must also have had a beginning. A 'place'with no time and space can only leave way for an architect (the creator).
Unable to except a 'holy' creator, the theorists have now suggested a higher intelligence to be the architect of this universe or what we assume is a universe. Ironic isnt it? In an attempt to deny a creator, we have once again created one.
As for: "The odds of life not having formed, Somewhere, are astronomical." Actually the odds of intelligent life existing are astronimical. The approx odds of a protein molecule forming at random is 1/10^113. Mathematicians dismiss the chance of 1/10^50 impossible :D
In future, please do not try and correct me in a subject that you clearly know little about.
You are foolish not to consider that 'pawned' was a typo ;)
BTW, this is a nice piece of philosophy that might get you thinking. If you discovered a watch in the soil you would know it was created, not just the outcome of random events. However, why is it you believe a a protein molecule which is infintely more complex, is just a product of randomness?
Heh, nice try but you're a bit off the mark. Yes, I understand that even a multiverse had to have had a beginning where everything started. I'm not denying the possibility that there may have been something supernatural in that, in fact that's extremely likely, as science can't explain it. What I was arguing against was the "intelligent design" idea. If the multiverse is infinite, then the odds of Life not having formed somewhere by accident are indeed astronomical. If you have infinity, and chaos to work with, then all possible outcomes will happen somewhere totally at random. I am fully aware of how complex life is, don't presume to lecture me on that.
Imagine - you have ten beach balls... there's an ant standing on top of each one. You toss them all into a pool, and only one of the balls floats in such a way that the ant stays above the water and doesn't drown. Wow, it must be a miracle... god designed things in such a way that it would survive. Maybe, but it could also be just randomness. This is a very basic example.. The formation of protein molecules is an exponentially more complex process, than whether an ant lives or dies. But the universe/multiverse is infinitely more complex than a beach ball and a pool. Infinitely is alot better than exponentially.
I'm glad that you don't actually think pwned is short for pawned.
the meaning of life is to die... actually nah to get drunk, laid, and high
Quote from: SiR gUt on September 11, 2005, 05:35:26 AM
the meaning of life is to die... actually nah to get drunk, laid, and high
These kind of people also have a second meaning of life.....to flip our burgers and work in our factories.
I think the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy is one of the greatest books ever created.
Dougless Adams has a perspective on life that allowed to take everything people mistake for reality and throw it in a blender.
that stuff cracked me up about the ultimate answer to life the universe and everything. the answer is 42, they waited for like a hundred thousand years for the computer to calculate the answer and got 42.
The computer said now you need to know the question. everything about the book was great, Im a huge fan
www.h2g2.com (http://www.h2g2.com)
Quote from: Slayer_Z on September 29, 2005, 03:56:36 AM
I think the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy is one of the greatest books ever created.
Dougless Adams has a perspective on life that allowed to take everything people mistake for reality and throw it in a blender.
that stuff cracked me up about the ultimate answer to life the universe and everything. the answer is 42, they waited for like a hundred thousand years for the computer to calculate the answer and got 42.
The computer said now you need to know the question. everything about the book was great, Im a huge fan
Even though I don't really enjoy the book, I like how he cleverly talks about Earth from the view of somewhere else, for example he points out that humans state the obvious an awful lot. ("It's a nice day today.")
well yes blitz some do, only if they cant control it. Me on the other hand can, and I do not work at mcdonalds flipping burgers. I may drink, get high, and laid, but i also hold a steady job. I work at a Mortgage Company and i'm become a Mortgage broker/real estate agent. Also that reminds me, if any of you would like to refinance let me know. I can get your interest rate on your home down to a 5.0, 5.50 % fixed rate.
and everybody is unhappy about the revolution of small green pieces of paper, which is odd because on a whole its not the pieces of paper that are unhappy.
I wish I was a margage broker. I just got a job as a drywall hauler.
Labor Labor Labor.
But I too will one day publish a book, although I dont think I am quite as creative as Adams.
I think my style is a little more king-ish, only without it being a horror story.
jeez, if you guys keep me talkin, I might not be considered a probe for much longer, I think that has something to do with number of posts, am I right?
Yes Zak, more posts, higher rating...as for this creation thing...God created the Earth...you can either except it, or run from it. The choice is yours, but Jesus loves us all. Sounds a little corny huh, just thought I would throw it in though. Never forget, Jesus loves all you guys and me too...Thats part of the reason I am a Happy Turtle, because I am loved ;D...YAY
Jesus loves you, but everyone else thinks you're an asshole.
LOL ;D
What if we don't believe in Jesus?
I am an asshole. no denieing that.
But I dont need anyone to love me becides jesus. so Its ok if you all think that bakster.
of course other peoples theories are still interesting, and I like to learn.
and I dont know how many times I have to tell you A , your not a turtle anymore, the experiment worked. Embrace your newfound shelless form and run from the beaches where you lay your eggs.
Quote from: The_Gu3st on September 30, 2005, 11:07:34 PM
LOLÂ ;D
What if we don't believe in Jesus?
You think a little thing like that will stop Jesus (who is perfect and never sins) from loving you?
yes bakster, yes it will.
indeed tis true.....and aws YOU ARE NOT A HAPPY TURTLE!!!!!!!!!
Jesus has unconditional love Anand...even if you do not believe, he still loves you.
Wait, gut, am I not Happy, not a turtle, or both.
Just wondering?
ur happy, but your not a happy turtle.
AND WHY NOT? >:(
Just kidding, that was not something a Happy Turtle would say... :P
Happy turtles are extinct, and so are ;D you.
happy turtles are extinct, thats cause I took the last one and genetically altered him into a happy Bi-pedal. ;D
Im a happy genetic engeneer :D
But I do have a fre frozen happy turtle genes, and for the right price might be willing to bring 1 or 2 ito existance to the highest bidderr. so let the bidding begin at $5000.
hehe love ya bro
if your a happy genetic engineer, why dont you spell it correctly? I will kill the race of the happy turtles, They are now on my hitlist!!!! EVERY HAPPY TURTLE I ENCOUNTER WILL DIE!!!!
Lets reflect here for one minute:
Jesus loves me.
Aws is a happy turtle.
Slayer is a greedy Happy Genetic Engineer.
Gut wants to kill all turtles.
Now lets think about the rest of the thread:
What is the meaning of life?
3 pages of relavence and then we get this:
Quotewell yes blitz some do, only if they cant control it. Me on the other hand can, and I do not work at mcdonalds flipping burgers. I may drink, get high, and laid, but i also hold a steady job. I work at a Mortgage Company and i'm become a Mortgage broker/real estate agent. Also that reminds me, if any of you would like to refinance let me know. I can get your interest rate on your home down to a 5.0, 5.50 % fixed rate.
Conclusions:
something about life... blah blah blah.... and then gut is a greedy drug-adict who works for real estate company and hates turtles. Aws is a happy turtle, who is on gut's hitlist. And slayer is a greedy imposter engineer.
wouldn't really say I am a drug addict...kinda not even close...
that was excellent. except 1 fact.
gut wants to kill all the happy turtles, except I have all the happy turtle genes
so I have to be killed to TRULy extinct the species which I own, and since Im invincable, the happy turtles cannott truly die, I will die to protect my happy turtle.Live on AWS2 for you will always be a happy turtle
o...m...g
just stfu, all of you.
To an optimist, the glass is half full
To a pessimist, the glass is half empty
To an engineer, the glass is twice the size it needs to be.
hmmm. baxter, thats a good way of thinking.
so how does 1 go about reducing the size of said glass without destroying it or spilling any water.
any suggestions.
also, since no-one wants to bid on a happy turtle, Im having a closeout sale on my happy turtle genes, be the first on your block to be a real imposter genetic engeneer. 8)
aaron, I havent heard from you in a while, everything strait?