well ive discussed it with some of the people who RP with me to see what all they want and ive come up with these 2 sketches... if they dont explain thoroughly enough then please do inquire and ill explain any other plans i have gladly
try to keep in mind they are VERY rough sketches :P
(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/492/sketchforlobby9tf.png)
this would be the lobby for the room
(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/9889/sketchforfightarena8pm.png)
and this would be the arena for the fights
RP?
Is that the thing where you do this:
"Bakster strikes down upon his opponent with a sword, splitting his skull in half. The crowd watches as his brains fly out, and blood pours like a waterfall."
Am I right? Huh? HUH?
yes and no.. the rping we do is like this:
Syn_Adam: *punches iceking*
Iceking00: *blocks*
Syn_Adam: *spinkicks iceking through a wall*
Iceking00: ughhh im pwned
Syn_Adam: *raises fists victoriously* ^_^
like so....
P.S: thats a real situation between me and him ;D
::) Yeah, that's pretty much the deal between Kallel (aka Iceking) and Adam, and pretty much how we rp...the sketches look promising, man. Keep it up. I'd critisize them, but I already know I couldn't do them much better ;D
:P they should be actual size too, as i started from screenshots of actual rooms... i just erased it all and only used the size for the arena though... thanks i guess...?
That's just stupid.
If I RP with you, I could just block/dodge everything you do.
not quite... we do speed RPing... ive had people who thought that way and tried it... but after you RP for a while you get faster and people dont exactly block it all easily...
Syn_Adam: *punches*
Bakster: *blocks*
(note that would still hurt blocking a punch)
Syn_Adam: *spinkicks*
Syn_Adam: *uppercuts*
Bakster: *dodges*
and my spinkick would still count as you didnt block it in time... plus if all you do is block and dodge youre labeled a coward... as if thats all you do thats all you are.... :-\
*shoots Adam*
also we use a little more power than that... kinda DBZ evolved... and i dont do forum RPing...
OMGZ. Coc....KakarotIII would love a RP loby. The guy sits for 3-4 hours straight at night looking for RP battles, and me being the sucky guy i am can't please him with my rp skillz. He'd love a loby like that :).
......... goku isnt the friendliest of us... but he has the most... dedication.... ;D
Lol tell me about it.
if you got time i could? :P
but please.. im having enough trouble getting people to comment on my idea...
Im not much into RPing but i saw a few crazed fans like a couple days ago in the chess room. Freakin like 11 ppl in there. Anyways, its a great idea but you need to put final touches on it, the scetch looks kinda... scetchy.
matlu asked for sketches... he told me they didnt have to be van goh so theyre not 8)
matlu asked in another topic if there was anything we would need so i came up with this idea on request... couldnt get anyone else to give me input so its all you if you have any input... :-\
Its a great idea, and at least people like karkarot wouldnt have to sit bored for like 4 hours.
eh he always sits bored for hours.... but then i wouldnt have to ;D
I like rping, but this isn't really my idea of rping... I've played the odd DnD game, and have roleplayed characters before in games like Neverwinter Nights and City of Heroes, and Ultima Online.
I don't mean to judge, but in all the years I spent in GD Castle, this is my impression of the "dbz fighting rp chat" : A bunch of people rping some strange pseudo-self, in a huge empty space. Most of them have dbz powers, with strength levels based on how somber and stoic they are able to come across as. And they have fights for random reasons, with outcomes determined by how fast they can type. But that doesn't determine the outcome always, as they have those imaginary power levels. If you're not part of the in-crowd and like to chat and goof off alot then your power level is weak. When they are not fighting they are busy flaming each other and acting superior and bitchy to noobs and people they don't know. :P
This is really my honest, unexxagerated impression. If there's more to it than that I would love to be proved wrong, and maybe join in with you guys some time if the rp room gets made. But if it's really all about *punch* *block* *blast* *dodge*, I have a funner way to do that. Ever heard of ZSNES? It's an emulator, which can play rom images of snes games. There's a program for ZSNES called Zbattle. It makes finding other zsnes users online very easy, and you can launch 1 on 1 multiplayer games from there. I often play games like SSF2, SF2 Alpha, and Gundam Wing: Endless Duel with people. It's a blast. There's also a dbz fighting game which is pretty popular, called DBZ: Hyper Dimension or something, but I never got into it. If you're interested, zsnes can be found at zsnes.com , and zbattle at zbattle.net . As for the roms, it's pseudo-illegal to link to them on a public forum, but they're easy to find with a google search.
Typing *kick* for hours on end doesn't sound very interesting to me. Sorry.
sadly i must 110% appreciate your input as when i look over my topic, even though i told EVERYONE from GDC to post on here, 1 person has posted a "good work" run through... thats it... so it looks like im kinda alone for the most part so i guess ill give it my go...
yes... back in the castle it was kind of like that... because of mainly 2 people... Jet and Psychodemon... both of them were of the best, quite literally... and to explain ill explain what all gives power...
yes some are judged as weak automatically... but those judged are generally guests or people who automatically come in and call us nerds and down talk us for doing what we enjoy... we dont make fun of you for playing cyber wars do we?
the "power level" as you call it is morely based on how fast you can type yes, but a big part of it is also how intelligent you are... for example Jet and Psychodemon were the best not only because they were very fast typists... but because their RP Characters were nearly invincible... they had a lot of weaknesses but those weaknesses were covered by the fact that they could type fast enough... they were smart enough to make their characters so that blasts would deflect off their scales(and they didnt just say my scales deflect blasts, they had FULL EXPLANATIONS on how their scales worked) and a lot of other parts of their characters that were all very well thought out and had very in depth explanations... if you want to know about how well thought out it all was i can probably ask Jet if he can check in, though i give no guarentees to whether he will as ive asked everyone from GDC to check in...
the "power level" is also, yes, judged by if youve been around... but not as youre thinking... you think that if youre not in the in-crowd youre weak in our eyes... but its morely a matter of you proving youre not just trying to make fun of us for being different, that youre actually doing it for fun, as we do... i personally enjoy RPing because its a way for me to create a fight in my mind and enjoy it because who knows whats going to happen next... youre not creating it all... its always evolving to something new... new people who actually want to join in only make it more fun, so i treat new people, who prove to have at least some dedication, as equals... then its all left up to who can type faster or think out their attacks and get them in...
the thinking basis of it doesnt just go towards making your character... it goes into being able to think how to counter any attack your opponent comes up with right after they do it, and then be able to it and keep thinking in split second time... sure it sounds easy you just dodge and block... but when you have to attack also to be able to win? its a lot harder than it sounds when you stick around to do it a lot... think of it as a hobby... its a lot of fun when you get into it and it helps you think.....
of course getting back to the castle... Jet and Psychodemon judged a lot of people who werent, as you said, the in-crowd... but neither of them really RP anymore... Psychodemon has no computer, and Jet just kinda fell out of it all... now we try to only judge those like Wildtigre... who came into the chess room(where a fairly large group of us were at) and automatically judged us as losers and otherwise just because we didnt want to play the games... and Kakarot is known as cock to him as a result... enough said there....
the fact is that times have changed... power levels are on a prove your worth basis... it takes a lot of practice, yes, but we are willing to help people get started if they want... we have done it before... as long as youre willing to learn... youre not going to just walk in out of nowhere and *rips adams head off and wins* something like that... if you do that then youre just going to be judged... we like to have new people but not people who think theyre the best before theyve started... keep in mind almost every one of us has been doing this for 4 years or so... Kakarot, Iceking00, Xanatos, Fate(Fury?), Devlin, Myself and many others... you cant expect us to let you act bigger than us without at least trying to act bigger... we worked hard to get as good as we are... a lot of practice and thought to be how we are... walk into a CounterStrike(Halflife?) tournament and talk down to them... most of those players are long time players who put a lot of time into it...
im aware of the super nintendo stuff as i play the Final Fantasy, Breath of Fire and a few other games on my emulator... its not illegal unless you dont own the games you download... but anyways its not something we are interested in... games like that only limit us... those games are a simple matter of pressing buttons... we put a lot more thought into this than figuring out the right combos... eventually everyone figures out all the moves and it gets boring... RPing however... ever evolving....
sorry about the really long post but i figure if im not going to have help from my fellow RP'ers its time i make clear our ways and intentions... do keep in mind even if you dont agree with this our msn group does have i believe 30 members, however innactive, and a lot of people have been surprised at how many of us have been gathered in a room like chess or checkers or reversi....
thank you for the post please dont let my rant discourage you from posting more feedback
Adam
Hmm, I guess I understand what you're saying. Also, I kind of regret what I posted if any of it is offensive to you guys. Glad to hear the whole attitude thing has changed since the castle. I'll admit that I did think it was kind of silly back then when I first saw people doing it, so I never took it seriously and made fun of people a little. But I didn't feel bad about it, because of the aforementioned attitude problem that I always saw.
Well, I guess the whole fighting rp thing just doesn't appeal to me. But I'll respect you guys from now on. Except for Goku. Goku is just funny. With the being silent for hours, making good uses of ellipses "..." and then when it's time to fight all of a sudden going all hyper with the attacks. That will always be funny to me, sorry.
Also, while games like SSF2 can become predictable, I can assure you that Gundam Wing Endless Duel has alot of depth. ;) It was never released in america and that's a big shame. When I was into SSF2, I was able to match all the experts online after "mastering the moves" and getting used to playing in top turbo speed. But true GWED experts are crazy. I've yet to match the few that I've met, and I think I've been practicing it alot longer now than I did SSF2. :P
its just something we've worked hard at and we dont feel like having it demeaned in any way which is so far all ive really seen of it from other people on this site... whether it appeals to you or not im glad you see our point... i have asked Jet to come take a look but i have no clue if he will or not, either way hes been informed and i didnt mention it before but he was the one who created the msn group for us to try to keep in practice and such... hopefully it wont be needed, though we will manage both...
yes... goku can be funny if you look at it right... he never let the castle go after it fell and after GDC became innactive he stood tall... hes one of our best fighters as well, but morely an amazing guy which deserves respect... hes stood tall through all of this... alone and with others... strong in many ways... but yes... he did kinda patent the spontaneous ellipse....
and those expert GWED players seem kinda like we are if not crazier... we see it as a 68 trans am.... cant let it fall apart... a nice car like that deserves to be fixed up into its glory....like a really good game of cyber battles perhaps? its so good you just dont want it to end... not the best annologies but hey... i think my point has gotten across....
Adam, thank you for the sketches
- now I have the idea how it should look like and I will try to work on it. However, don't expect to have any tangible results very soon, it will take a week or two to make at least something simple, I'm very busy with other stuff at the moment
- it will not be part of current game suite (cyber battles, checkers etc.), it will be separated game
well, im sorry that i didn't reply to your thang, but i really wasn't aware of it until a couple days ago. since im not part of gdc anymore, i don't look at the message boards, but i check in on your intro page every once in a while. i looked at your sketches, and i must say that they're ok, but since this rp room is going to be rp only, i would suggest not having the small window at the bottom with room for only like 5 lines of type. also, you need a scroll up/down option to review moves.. stuff like that for us lowly judges. :P also, i heard that you get kicked every five minutes if you don't play a game or if you don't change rooms. this... is gay. no, scratch that, it's uber-gay. and you gotta eliminate that if you're gonna make a successful room just for rpers.
the team idea, as in a certain list for team one and team two.... most of our fights are one on one or tag team. so i dunno about that feature. and nothing else about that really stood out to me, so, there's my input. HAPPY!? 8) i am teh coolness...
this room isnt for people who dont like rping, this is for the people who actually enjoy it O.o or want to learn it. Flaming it before you even know what its like is just stupid. If you don't want to be a part of it, don't. I think it's a good idea (obviously) and I think the sketches are more than a little sketchy O.o....... just slightly. But they have the right idea. I agree with teh Carb tho, gotta get rid of the idle booting.
Quote from: Carbon on August 06, 2005, 07:09:53 AM
well, im sorry that i didn't reply to your thang
Hahaha, she said thang :P
first id like to thank matlu for checking out my post and posting a reply it helped a lot as i thought i was completely alone... if you need any help at all with this i would be more than glad to help in any way i can...
carbon: i did say about a scrollbar im sure, if not thats definately true that we need one... idle logout will be unnacceptable, as judges mainly sit and watch, and people not fighting but still on a team wont be able to talk for the most part...
as for the teams yes we mostly do 1 on 1 or 2 on 2 but we also do sometimes have 1 on 2 matches and such... think about heckran and mist and kallel and nave... and diablo... they all need help to face someone like me... ;D
devlin: very well put... the problem that people get is that people are looking at it like i want this room for myself, which since not many people are openly supporting me thats how it look... people dont see how many people we actually have that could use and would want this... and yes... they are verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry sketch :-\
P.S: haha she DID say thang O_o
na..fuck you adam the rp rooms a good idea but dude.....you suck
Syn_Adam:lets go play checkers
Syn_Adam: *skips to checkers*
Iceking00:dude.....did you just skip?..
Syn_Adam: ....omg I skipped
o.o............. sadly thats a true convo... ish... not exactly... but i still pwn you every time! :D
Adam...you actually have a good idea for once...now i can go after Goku like i did in gd like goood old times..by the way this is Diablo :P
yea i like doing that i remember this 1 guest said he was immortal cuz he was a noob but he was stupid so i did the 1 thing that can beat him
 *opens rift throws guest in and he gets trapped in a universal vortex* and since he cant die he will be in there for ever
I think this rp game room should be made a priority... It's kind of awkward when you want to go play chess, but then the only people in there are the dbz-rpers.
Can't they go and find their own RP site, I'm sure there are plenty...
I'm really very very sorry, but currently it really doesn't look like I could work on RP room in near future :( I know I sort of promised it, but it's really not possible
if some smart programmer would hack such game in php (or if you know some existing opne-source one) I would put it on the server
well what u could do is like make a thing like cw except theres is only a list of people there no create game button  etc(until u make stuff for it) and just label it rp so pretty much copy a room delete most buttons and thats about it all ud have to do pretty much is make the chat box and thats it
well this I could make easily, but the chatbox would *not* have copy&paste functionality, that's impossible at the moment. So if you can live without it I can make you an empty room with bigger chatbox
yea i didnt mean that i meant copy a room like an idea not like copy a phrase and thne paste it in chat box but yea thats exactly it that make us rpers happy and u can work on it as u have time
he was refering to part of my idea... its been a while since i checked in here.. i checked for a while but when it went completely dead i assumed the idea was given up on...
if its just not possible theres no need for copy and paste... its morely just for record keeping, as i like to keep track of all my fights... im sure just making a bigger chatbox room would be no effort at all and could be done within a day so that could easily be an option for until youre able to work on a bigger one...
either way its more of a convenience thing... the main thing we really all feel we NEED is the scrollbar... without that its very hard to have judging on the fight to decide who really won, if its a problem...
hm, if it's only for archiving purposes, maybe it would possible to make a button, which would open pop-up window with copy of chat content. This popup window could probably have copy&paste functionality, I'll think about it & try it.
But there is also one other problem, maybe bigger. It depends on how important the speed is for the game. Right now the server framework for all games works in one second "beats". It always quickly checks if some player made some action, than process it and sends updates too all players in the room. And then it waits one second doing nothing. After one second it again checks for input and updates other players. The problem is that if there are several players in a room, the server checks them in fixed order. So it may happen that if one player writes something, and the seconds player writes something let's say 200 miliseconds later, it is possible that the message of seconds player will be processed and displayed sooner. The order of processing is always fixed. I don't how timing-sensitive is this game. If miliseconds matters then somebody would always have unfair advantages.
To overcome this problem it would be necessary to write completely new game server separated from current games.
I don't know if this is an issue, if you can currently play in some lobby without feeling that it's unfair, then it's probably ok for you.
Quote from: Adam on September 03, 2005, 08:14:20 AM
if its just not possible theres no need for copy and paste... its morely just for record keeping, as i like to keep track of all my fights...
Can't you just screen cap then?
cant we just screen cap them? no... rping is a lot longer than that... usually an rp fight is 10 minutes long at least... kinda hard to screen cap that much...
and yes that would be a problem matlu... sometimes milliseconds mean everything in the fight... not often but thats why we want the scrollbar... because sometimes itll show up like this for me:
iceking00: *slams fist into his face*
Syn Adam: *flips to the side*
iceking00: *uppercuts*
and for him itll show his 2 actions the my 1 action... it seems to happen no matter where we rp... i think it may be something like the same thing youre talking about, but because i dont really have any experience in programming im not 100% sure...
either way generally miliseconds only matter in fast fights... and the only fast people we seem to have are myself, kakarot, jet(who doesnt rp anymore apparently..) and psychodemon(who doesnt have a computer currently)... so its not like it would make much of a difference generally.. like i said the main thing we're looking for is something better than what we have right now... we're not asking you to go all out... we're asking for the best you can do... if this is all you have available for us right now we'd be damn appreciative just for it... duelboard seems to attract people better than msn...
ok all rpers what well do until matlu gets a rp room up well just continue to use chess and i rp to but on a diff name i used to be super fast but i slowed a alot cuz i couldnt get practice and adam no offense but i think my idea about a normal rp room without a make game button, and non/rated rated buttons and no score board would be good until matlu gets time to add stuff in and well have a big chat box and name box and exit button and that would be it until matlu had time to add options to the game u know that way wed have a room and matlu would only have to work when he wants to
Why not have one like the one on the tournement website matlu?
It's simple, looks free, and has a copy and paste function. Seems ideal.
yeah ults that probably would be fine... like i said the only thing we really feel we need for this is a scrollbar on the chat... matlu asked for an elaborate plan for a room and i got one up...
dodger im not sure what youre talking about but if it would work then that sounds good too
http://client1.sigmachat.com/sc.pl?id=112248
ok adam thx to u me and dodger we can get a room up now we just need to combine our ideas man
Don't use that room dude, it was just an example...
nooo we take adams drawings,the scroll bar and copy paste funtions from u room and a few of my ideas and there we go a nice room
lol :D
oh must we use my drawings? god they were rough and im not so sure i should claim them :-\
not sure where tiras got the script for the chatroom, ask him and I'm sure he'll hook you up. But if you're gonna use the tournament room for the time being, make sure it is empty at tournament time.
What's so good about RPing here anyway? I'm sure there are lots of good RP websites, or a chat room website would be fine. Matlu has other more important things to do.
If you don't know any other RP rooms: www.google.com
I think the whole idea is about attracting people to DB Bakster :P
its not a matter of other places... its a matter of matlu ASKED FOR INFORMATION ON HOW TO MAKE A ROOM FOR US... meaning he requested to do this... therefore its kinda on his priority list as i see it... he decided not me... im not one to decline whats offered and itd be really nice to have an rp room tailored for us... no matter how perfect it would or wouldnt be...
but the idea is to attract RPers, and thus attract more people in total...