Since I got no reply in email....
Hey Matlu, this is zz. I know that you have trouble with offensive language, but the current system you have set up is going to make things worse, not better. How can new players learn the game if they are unable to communicate with anybody. I know had it been like that when I was first starting, then I never would have learned the game. You got to make the game more attractive to beginning players, and having chat blocked prevents this. I know you dont like this, but perhaps having a few monderators or a report function is your best bet. I'm sure there are a few, trustworthy people who would gladly do it. I know it's not easy to do, nor desirable either. But you don't want to take away from the game, and not being able to communicate does this. Then, have you been able to block IP's for repeat offenders?
i loveeeeeeee the blocked chat for new players and guests!!! now the lobby isnt full of guest nics yappin away and tryin to cause trouble
Cudos to Firebird!
We were doing it w/ the moderators and reports since March and it wasn't working at all. I think the new blocking of guest and new player chat is very beneficial to not only Matlu, but to everyone on the entire site. It keeps the lobby trash-talk down and keeps people who just go in there to harass people away.
Quote from: PinkPlayDoh on October 24, 2006, 08:02:35 PM
Cudos to Firebird!
We were doing it w/ the moderators and reports since March and it wasn't working at all. I think the new blocking of guest and new player chat is very beneficial to not only Matlu, but to everyone on the entire site. It keeps the lobby trash-talk down and keeps people who just go in there to harass people away.
but what about the good people who aren't going to say anything bad.
How do you expect new players to learn the game? I wouldn't have learned the game if the blocked chat was in effect. You cannot penalize everybody because of a few bad apples. It's not good for the expansion of the game.
why not just put a curse word filter into the chat boxes so even if they use the words you only see ********* lol
I dont mind either way and it aint the guest that get me so much as ppl who wanna accuse you of cheating everytime something goes right for you and ur P at a table.. that REALLY KILLS me...
for the record while im on topic lol i NEVER cheat and i NEVER will.. and these threats to "email maltu" are getting very old and makes it hard for me to enjoy being here these are all the reasons i quit playing card games on yahoo and other sites.
and this is the reason i liked it here.. for the most part its a great community of card players but ive ran into a few bad eggs.
You can't cheat.
For right now, it's a good answer to the problems we were having. I realize new people can't learn the game, but we intend on making a page with rules and how to play the game. I know it doesn't seem fair, but it's also not fair that some people come in and harass everyone with 20 different nics and act like they were brought up in a zoo. They drive good people away from the site and ruin things for a lot of people. This immaturity shouldn't be and isn't going to be tolerated.
And the filter is a good idea. I'll put that on the list. :D
I don't want to be disrespectful to Matlu or Pink, but it seems like there is hardly ever a moderator on during the peak hours (6-10 est). I realize that you guys both work and have lives and are in different time zones. Perhaps, another moderator who could be on during these hours would be beneficial.
Mike
One more thing...
Ignore buttons are a magical thing.. then we can pick and choose who we wanna ignore and what new comers are awesome and we love to play with em.
that would be alot less harsh and VERY Fair to everyone... if someone's harassing you... simply click a button and no more listening to them :)
That would also be a lot of work for Matlu, when u can just ignore what the person says urself.
I LIKE THE NEW LOBBY! :D
i think we should CUDOS matlu ;D
Ahem. Do you perhaps mean KUDOS?
ROFL
or maybe that's just how u spell it in England?
actually I just think Joshua's retarded. ::)
you people are missing the point......
ZZ tops is right, stick to the topic noobs. This is a serious discussion on a unpopular gaming site, so please stick the unbreakable rules or you will die
Heh, ~200 people at a given time isn't unpopular. That's actively popular for a site of this size.
Oh snap! I shoulda done my research :-*
Unfortunattely all of them are playing Rook. ::)
Dodger and flamingdragon... hardly any rookers even know who you guys are... you 2 must get off on comming to the ROOK forum and making smart remarks about what everyone says ...
Quote from: FireBird on November 20, 2006, 12:22:26 PM
Dodger and flamingdragon... hardly any rookers even know who you guys are... you 2 must get off on comming to the ROOK forum and making smart remarks about what everyone says ...
Where have I flamed any rookers? Corrected them maybe, but I do that to everyone. Maybe you should back off mate.
Quote from: FireBird on November 20, 2006, 12:22:26 PM
Dodger and flamingdragon... hardly any rookers even know who you guys are... you 2 must get off on comming to the ROOK forum and making smart remarks about what everyone says ...
Seriously, what did Dodger do?
And I make fun of Rookers b/c all of u do stuff in all caps or all in color all the time and it's really annoying, + it seems u don't like Matlu very much when he made Rook for u.
Stop flaming eachother in my topic, go elsewhere please.
Matlu, can I please get a reply or is that too much to ask for?
is mate what you call "males" dodger???
You decide what he meant:
mate1â€, /meɪt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[meyt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, mat‧ed, mat‧ing.
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a. first mate.
b. any of a number of officers of varying degrees of rank subordinate to the master of a merchant ship.
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9. a gear, rack, or worm engaging with another gear or worm.
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11. to join as a mate or as mates.
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17. to associate as a mate or as mates.
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I helped you out a little on deciding which one it was.
I use it as a term of endearment. I was in fact just being condescending, seeing as I did nothing wrong.
Quote from: FireBird on November 26, 2006, 10:07:18 PM
is mate what you call "males" dodger???
I don't know what this means.
He is implying that u are gay I believe, when u said this, however he doesn't know how to quote:
Quote from: Dodger on November 20, 2006, 10:22:44 PM
Where have I flamed any rookers? Corrected them maybe, but I do that to everyone. Maybe you should back off mate.
Firebird is gay?? I wonder if someone should tell HER husband???
If your going to slam someone in here you should at least know what your talking about.
What are u talking about, that makes no sense. I was un-slamming Dodger. The only way I was slamming Firebird is by saying she was a he, who if I didn't know was a she, I wouldn't be slamming her.
This is so stupid :D
Quote from: hammike on November 27, 2006, 10:28:22 AM
Firebird is gay?? I wonder if someone should tell HER husband???
If your going to slam someone in here you should at least know what your talking about.
::)
I think you should know what you are talking about too :P
Quote from: zzboots on November 06, 2006, 09:12:42 PM
you people are missing the point......
Yeah we cyberbattles people do that all the time. Anyway I agree with this discussion about horrible chat logs in the game of rook. Mind you I just ignore them and play but it really pisses me off that some people have nothing better to do then to diss and cuss over a chat log in an on-line game like rook. Get a life people. If your that screwed in the mind you should really consider brain surgery as a likely and healthy choice!
I think I should stop myself before i rant too much because I think everyone who plays or has played rook gets the point i am trying to make. No insults to Maltu but it is true that moderators are really needed and a few more added wouldn't be a bad idea if it wasn't a hassle to do.
I disagree with the moderators part of that last sentence.
Quote from: zzboots on November 21, 2006, 07:20:36 PM
Stop flaming eachother in my topic, go elsewhere please.
Matlu, can I please get a reply or is that too much to ask for?
Sorry for not responding sooner, I had no time to read the forum recently. I understand your point and I'm aware of all things you mentioned.
I don't like this "new player blocked chat" thing either, but sadly this is the only way to NOT have the lobby full of teenagers yelling "f*ck you" at each other.
Hey gang!!! It is me Newnamenrook...I have been playing on duelboard but cant talk to any of yas yet to hang in there with me I cant wait to talk to you all and get caught up!!!
Matlu why dont you do it like other online games install a small filter that makes all curse words or words you do not want used into all *******
Quote from: ownage on December 16, 2006, 12:24:19 AM
Matlu why dont you do it like other online games install a small filter that makes all curse words or words you do not want used into all *******
I think the fact is, he shouldn't have to.
Yes i know he shouldnt need to but instead of blocking the new players chat and having all these complaints he can just make a filter or make a series of words and saying which you click to say
There would always be ways around a filter, as he not block out every single way for example if they wanted to say turkey:
turkey
tur key
tu_rkey
tur_key
turke y
tur@key
tu@rkey
turk_ey
turkey*
*turkey
turk3y
+ A LOT More
And the list of phrases it says when u click on them would really suck, u do not want that.
yes but it may be used as a last resort
Okay, let me put my two cents in this discussion, lol. I do not like that new nics are not allowed to chat. A lot of people make new nics for the different holidays and when they come in they can't talk. Some people who are new and who want to learn the game cannot communiate with other players to ask them questions and a how to play rook page will not help some people. I learned to play rook by asking other people questions and by watching games. If I would have had to read on how to play, then I still would not know how to play. I like the idea of a mute button and a chat filter. Also, I think that you should be able to set tables where guests are not allowed to join because sometimes they will quit in the middle of a game and it is not fair to the other players. Thank you for yalls time and have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. ;D
why not just have a button where u can ignore players if they are annoying??
Quote from: TweetyRulzz on December 25, 2006, 03:11:52 AM
Okay, let me put my two cents in this discussion, lol. I do not like that new nics are not allowed to chat. A lot of people make new nics for the different holidays and when they come in they can't talk. Some people who are new and who want to learn the game cannot communiate with other players to ask them questions and a how to play rook page will not help some people. I learned to play rook by asking other people questions and by watching games. If I would have had to read on how to play, then I still would not know how to play. I like the idea of a mute button and a chat filter. Also, I think that you should be able to set tables where guests are not allowed to join because sometimes they will quit in the middle of a game and it is not fair to the other players. Thank you for yalls time and have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. ;D
my Christmas gift. someone intellegent agreeing with me. :D
I learned the game online asking people how to play. If the game had blocked chat when I first started, I never would have learned it. Such a pitty because it is fun.
What is wrong w/ learning how to play via instruction manuals?
Quote from: flamingdragon on December 30, 2006, 07:41:02 AM
What is wrong w/ learning how to play via instruction manuals?
Rook is an interactive game against other people. It's harder to play when you cant communicate information to other players. (RTO BOAT) or just being friendly/encouraging to the other team or team mate. If people didnt want to play with other people, they would play sollitaire.
lol a word list ex.
if you want to say rto you scroll done the list of words and look for rto click and hit enter then if you want help scroll and look for i need help and hit enter after clicking them
so much fun lol
But then how does someone help you if they only have a word list to choose from. As in help you learn the rules. Impossible.
Again.
I don't like blocked chat at all. I don't like it. But at the moment it's the best and easiest solution for a very serious problem.
Quote from: matlu on January 03, 2007, 06:47:08 PM
Again.
I don't like blocked chat at all. I don't like it. But at the moment it's the best and easiest solution for a very serious problem.
I know its a tab bit lengthy, I would appreciate it if Matlu and any other skeptical player would read the following information..
Here's a serious problem:
I join a game, playing with a relatively new player( played a few games but couldnt talk) as my partner.
The opponent says rto after game has started. We go through game and my partner plays rook as wild. The other team flips out and refuses to play. (sadly it was no time limit.) so I am left to defend my partner, arguing that the player called rto after game had started and p did not agree to it. (Because she could not talk.) Opponent stalls the game until my partner finally leaves. (they wanted us to unrate.) I kept on debating the player, saying that the person had no control over the game and whether or not rook is wild after game has begun. If they wanted to declare rto and if everyone agreed prior, then my p would have been in error. But since she was unable to communicate her wishes, I was left defending her. I messaged my opponent and they threatened to get me banned. They also claimed to be taking screen shots as evidence. I then receive a personal message from the person's friend. This person felt the need to criticize me for defending my partner. He said that I cheated and that I would be banned. WORSE he pretended to imitate MATLU. This last action really upset me.
The point of the story isn't whether or not the rook should be wild..
This is just a clear cut example of how player chat restrictions don't help.
Perhaps my partner wanted to play rook as wild, then she could have argued for no rto in the beginning. (Again, no one specified prior to game starting)
Maybe my partner made an honest mistake.
At any rate, she was unable to communicate her actions, I was left to defend her. (And for the record, I did not know this person.)
But we can learn valuable information from this occurrence. The player restricted in chat was at a huge, unjustified advantage. The player who was able to chat, ABUSED the privilege. The blocked chat solved nothing; it complicated things.
In conclusion, Matlu, I beg of you to reconsider the blocked chat. It does nothing but hurt innocent players while not stopping all the issues. I know an alternate solution would not be easy, but it would be fairer.
Will you please consider alternative ideas?