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Title: commander graphics?
Post by: willie on November 01, 2005, 10:21:11 AM
adjust the colors of the commanders' uniforms so that there'd be 3 pairs of different colored commanders so in a 6 player game, ppl can call teams by colors like how it used to be in cyber wars.
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: Dodger on November 01, 2005, 06:30:29 PM
Not important. But I'll do it anyway...

<edit> On second thoughts, I don't think this is necessary, but I think we should have all the commanders alike...(if only so we can use the mods :P)

<edit2> How is this for a different colour? I didn't really know what bit to change...How does it look?

<edit3> he he That looks awful... ;D What colour should it change to?
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: Dodger on November 01, 2005, 07:23:56 PM
Did another...How does green look?
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: willie on November 01, 2005, 08:58:54 PM
they both look great!
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: Dodger on November 02, 2005, 01:03:34 AM
Someone move this to the Graphics forum then.
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: matlu on November 02, 2005, 08:08:30 PM
That's exactly what I meant, when we very discussing emote-animations. If there is still interest I could put these commanders into game, and later also do "emotes"?
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: Dodger on November 02, 2005, 08:52:50 PM
Yes defiantly. Need more colours though. And I will have to make emotions different colours for the different coloured commanders?
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: matlu on November 02, 2005, 09:04:31 PM
nope, there will be only one commander, but you'll have somehow mark places which will be coloured. Choose some random color, which does not appear elsewhere in this sprite, and mark these places with this color.
Well and these coloured places will probably also need to be shaded, so choose for example pure red color (with Green and Blue components set to zero), and paint these places with shades of red. And this colour will be replaced on runtime with any necessary colour.
So for example if there is some bright red colour in the image (like RGB: 250/0/0) then it will be replaced with some other bright color. If there is dark red (like RGB: 50/0/0) then it will be replaced with some dark colour. This way we can save space significantly .
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: Dodger on November 02, 2005, 09:10:27 PM
That's quite confusing, but I think I understand what you mean.

Does that just happen with the emotions? Or with the commander sprites?
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: matlu on November 02, 2005, 09:15:35 PM
There is nothing confusing :) Just take one sprite from those above, and replace "coloured" parts with pure red color (255,0,0) or pure red shades (X/0/0)

There will be only one sprite, but when rendering on the screen the program will replace these red parts with some colour for first player, with other colour for second player, etc. etc

And yes, also animations can be marked in similar fashion. This way we can have only one animation, but each player will have it coloured in his own color.

If it's still confusing I can post some example... ?
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: Dodger on November 02, 2005, 09:20:42 PM
No, I understand.

Here is a pure yellow, changing the shades. I will post the other frames later when I can get onto my desktop. On here I can't veiw the separate frames of the animatio n, only the first one.
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: matlu on November 02, 2005, 09:59:17 PM
yeees, exactly like this :) And I will need it in "standard"  128*32 format (3 animation phases and one explosion), like this:

<edit> now I read remaining of your post, ok I'm waiting for more phases :) You don't have to hurry, I won't work on it today, it's quite late here.
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: Dodger on November 02, 2005, 10:25:49 PM
;D

There you go... I think that's what you need.

My apologies go to Teh_luggage, for the defacing of your excellent graphic.  :)
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: Dodger on November 03, 2005, 12:39:05 AM
 ;D


<Edit> I posted this because the_guest asked me to! Not because I'm gay!!! OKAY? Nothing wrong with pink anyway....
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: Dodger on November 03, 2005, 06:34:48 PM
Is that okay Mat?

To clarify....The yellow commander contains 3 shades. All (255,255,0), but different 'Lumenescence' (120, 100 and 80).
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: matlu on November 03, 2005, 06:38:26 PM
it does not matter whether it is pink or yellow. The players will not see this color anyway
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: Dodger on November 03, 2005, 07:50:53 PM
I know. The pink one was for The_Guest....A joke...Don't worry  :)
When can these be put in game then?
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: matlu on November 03, 2005, 08:41:38 PM
ehm, by end of this week
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: Dodger on November 03, 2005, 09:19:01 PM
 :)
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: Bakster on November 03, 2005, 10:26:49 PM
What's so good about teams anyway? I prefer a good free for all. After all, that is teams as well. 1v1v1v1v1v1 ;D
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: matlu on November 03, 2005, 10:36:37 PM
What teams? Are there some new features planned which I don't know about?  :)
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: Dodger on November 04, 2005, 12:08:57 AM
lol. Bakster, this thread went a little off topic...in a good way! :)...We are not talking about teams anymore...I rejected that idea second post  :P
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: matlu on November 07, 2005, 12:52:14 AM
Quote from: matlu on November 03, 2005, 08:41:38 PM
ehm, by end of this week

So, it's done, and in time :)

<edit> I think it looks better than I expected :)
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: The_Gu3st on November 07, 2005, 12:59:18 AM
Sweet!

What about the emoticons? Will they be put in soon too?
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: matlu on November 07, 2005, 01:06:33 AM
We have to agree on how many animation phases they will have (4 ?).  I'm not sure but it might be possible to have certain animations with double phases ( 8 ) if necessary. And then, somebody has to paint these emoticons.

"Replacable" parts should be marked with shades of yellow color. Red and Green components should be exactly same(!!!), Blue component should be zero.
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: The_Gu3st on November 07, 2005, 01:09:25 AM
Looking nice. Im sure Dodger will take care of those emoticons!

Take a look at the pimpin' commanders!

(http://img287.imageshack.us/img287/6470/commandercolors5nl.png) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: Dodger on November 07, 2005, 09:08:42 AM
Excellent.  : ) Heh heh, there is a pink one for Guest! : D Red guy looks a bit strange because he has that red belt thing as well, but no worries, it looks great : ).

Quote from: The_Gu3st on November 07, 2005, 01:09:25 AM
Looking nice. Im sure Dodger will take care of those emoticons!

I will work on the emoticons tonight. Hmmm.....4 frames? Thats not very many...8 would be better.  : )
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: matlu on November 07, 2005, 09:49:56 AM
Quote from: Dodger on November 07, 2005, 09:08:42 AM
I will work on the emoticons tonight. Hmmm.....4 frames? Thats not very many...8 would be better.  : )
Just keep in mind the purpose - this is a game, not dating chat
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: Bakster on November 07, 2005, 06:20:01 PM
I say orange instead of light blue! ;D
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: Dodger on November 07, 2005, 06:42:20 PM
Quote from: virtuoso on November 07, 2005, 04:53:01 PM
: D 

There are people that don't plan to meet soulmates on here? I flirt all the time

But, i can imagine some real emote abuse if they are implemented : D


Emote abuse? Such as?
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: Dodger on November 07, 2005, 07:40:24 PM
Try this, as a test It has 8 frames... I havn't had a chance to animate it properly myself, so it may not work. Try it out. Thanks Matlu  :)

<EDIT> Neater, no greyness, 2nd one.
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: matlu on November 07, 2005, 08:12:19 PM
This one looks like nice and senseful emote :) It will take some programming & time to implement emotes, so give me two days or so.
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: Dodger on November 07, 2005, 09:07:16 PM
Okay  :) I'm so excited  ;D
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: The_Gu3st on November 08, 2005, 04:02:26 AM
If the elephants dont get in the game, I'm suing. Seriously, I will sue. Without the elephants, this game will implode.
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: Dodger on November 12, 2005, 12:34:38 AM
How's it going Matlu?
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: matlu on November 12, 2005, 12:10:57 PM
uh, sorry, it was postponed a bit :) It'll be there by Sunday 12:00 pm (european time)
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: Dodger on November 13, 2005, 12:42:27 AM
Ooo, even giving a time :D I'll hold you to it! :)
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: matlu on November 13, 2005, 12:59:54 AM
It was just different way to say "by end of this week" :)
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: Dodger on November 13, 2005, 01:44:36 AM
What time is European time anyway? Time varies across Europe, so how can you generalise it?
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: matlu on November 13, 2005, 10:28:59 AM
Ok, I meant GMT +1

However, it's already finished, I'm just going to upload it, and I'm far ahead the schedule :) (It's just 9:45 a.m.)
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: Dodger on November 13, 2005, 11:36:49 AM
Yay! What is the command?
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: matlu on November 13, 2005, 11:44:25 AM
I thought you would knew, it's /sleep
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: Dodger on November 13, 2005, 11:51:52 AM
Yeah, I guessed it :D    It could have been /zzz ;)

I'll upload some more now...Is it time consuming to add more?
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: Dodger on November 13, 2005, 01:06:17 PM
Because....boom!

/doh
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: Dodger on November 13, 2005, 01:13:31 PM
Oh, I also made an edit of the sleep one, there were some unanicipated grey pixels, as a border, which show up in game. Dunno how they got there. It's not too important if it's quite time consuming, but it will look better.
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: matlu on November 13, 2005, 02:00:37 PM
yes I know about these grey pixels, they were also in commander template, but I removed them. I was too lazy to remove them from "sleep" though. Ok, I'll make /doh in the evening
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: ultswordsman on November 13, 2005, 05:56:31 PM
hmmm make the actions visible in transports like sleep u  see zzzzzzzz coming out of them
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: Dodger on November 13, 2005, 05:58:11 PM
Hm..no.

You can't sleep and drive.  ;)
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: ultswordsman on November 13, 2005, 06:38:00 PM
yes u can thats what gps systems are for u type in an address and sleep
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: The_Gu3st on November 13, 2005, 08:42:10 PM
I think the /sleep emote should run for a longer time, mainly the last 3 frames where the "zzz" comes out. It would make a great "brb" or "afk" animation that keeps looping, and once you return you type in /return to stop the animation.

Also, I demand that the elephant one gets put in next. The fact that it wasnt 1st is a shame to all of duelboard. I'll even go as far as to say that you have dissed the entire world by not working on the /elephant emote.

Quote from: ultswordsman on November 13, 2005, 06:38:00 PM
yes u can thats what gps systems are for u type in an address and sleep

Some people are born stupid. Then there's Ults...
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: Dodger on November 13, 2005, 09:39:23 PM
Quote from: The_Gu3st on November 13, 2005, 08:42:10 PM
I think the /sleep emote should run for a longer time, mainly the last 3 frames where the "zzz" comes out. It would make a great "brb" or "afk" animation that keeps looping, and once you return you type in /return to stop the animation.

Well.......if it looped then it would loop the first (putting night cap on) bit as well, not just the zzz bit. To make it only loop the last 3 frames, would probably mean seperating it into two animations...the zzz bit running after the first bit, then looping. Seems a lot of work for something of minor importance to me.

I could increase the amount of frames of zzz but Matlu said he only really wanted 8 frames.

Quote
Also, I demand that the elephant one gets put in next. The fact that it wasnt 1st is a shame to all of duelboard. I'll even go as far as to say that you have dissed the entire world by not working on the /elephant emote.

Okay, I will edit an elephant one next.

Quote
Some people are born stupid. Then there's Ults...

;D
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: The_Gu3st on November 13, 2005, 09:41:50 PM
Its just that the /sleep animation seems very short lived, and it doesnt really serve any useful purpose unless its used that way I described it. Im sure it wouldnt be too much trouble to loop the last 3 frames, and then add an extra command for /return.
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: Dodger on November 13, 2005, 09:46:45 PM
You will have to ask Matlu, buuuuuut it looks doubtful...

I don't think you will be able to just loop the last few frames, without looping the entire animation. In that case you would have to separate the 8 frames into two different animations that are played one after the other.
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: Bakster on November 13, 2005, 10:24:55 PM
Just loop the whole thing, it's not that big a deal, right?
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: Dodger on November 13, 2005, 11:20:46 PM
Probably not to loop the whole thing. Of course I have no idea. And Matlu is concentrating on his MUD.
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: The_Gu3st on November 14, 2005, 11:20:47 PM
So... is /doh in? And did you work on /elephant, dodger? And was my idea about looping that last 3 frames even looked at?
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: matlu on November 15, 2005, 01:13:21 AM
Sorry, you'll have /doh tomorrow :) I was too busy today, and I have to sleep now. I don't like the idea of looping some animation frames
Title: Re: i want to be able to call teams by colors
Post by: Dodger on November 15, 2005, 08:19:39 PM
Can someone change the name of this thread. To "Commander Mods" or something?
Title: Commander Mods
Post by: haferhole1 on November 15, 2005, 09:01:34 PM
like that?
Title: Re: commander graphics?
Post by: Dodger on November 15, 2005, 09:11:22 PM
Nope. That just changed your's : ) Someone has to change the first post. Anyway...

Take this!

;D


Definatly has to be /elephant
Title: Re: commander graphics?
Post by: Dodger on November 15, 2005, 09:12:58 PM
BTW Matlu, can you please animate that before uploading it? I'm not sure what it looks like...My normal computer is busted so I'm having to use my laptop, which doesn't have my animation program. Thanks.  :-*
Title: Re: commander graphics?
Post by: The_Gu3st on November 15, 2005, 11:15:34 PM
I <3 Dodger  :-*
Title: Re: commander graphics?
Post by: Dodger on November 15, 2005, 11:48:46 PM
 :-\
Title: Re: commander graphics?
Post by: matlu on November 17, 2005, 05:44:44 PM
Ok, you have your /doh and /elephant
Title: Re: commander graphics?
Post by: Dodger on November 17, 2005, 06:32:56 PM
Thanks Matlu  :)
Title: Re: commander graphics?
Post by: Dodger on November 17, 2005, 06:52:11 PM
BTW, is there a maximum number of frames that these emotes can have? I have a 14 frame one...but is that too many?
Title: Re: commander graphics?
Post by: matlu on November 17, 2005, 06:53:04 PM
there is no limit at all, it will just increase download time
Title: Re: commander graphics?
Post by: Dodger on November 17, 2005, 07:00:28 PM
My time to load game is practically instantaneous. Irregardless if it is in my cache or not. Dunno about anyone else..
Title: Re: commander graphics?
Post by: haferhole1 on November 17, 2005, 07:41:20 PM
my time to load game is asymmetrically lackadaisical.  although i am currently obtaining 4 cinematic films off the information infrastructure and useing a fallacious fastigio

c? i can use big word 2  :D
Title: Re: commander graphics?
Post by: The_Gu3st on November 18, 2005, 12:05:43 AM
I <3 Matlu.
I <3 Elephants
I <3 DuelBoard
:-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: commander graphics?
Post by: willie on November 23, 2005, 08:49:58 AM
I <3 me
:-*
Title: Re: commander graphics?
Post by: Bakster on November 23, 2005, 09:28:17 PM
I think the emotes needs to be put somewhere on the game screen so everyone can see it!
Title: Re: commander graphics?
Post by: Dodger on November 23, 2005, 10:27:52 PM
Nahhh :)
Title: Re: commander graphics?
Post by: Dodger on December 01, 2005, 06:43:12 PM
Havn't done any for a while so here's a double update  :)

/quit
and
/burger

Does anyone think that /quit should actually make you quit back to the main screen?
Is that possible Mat?
Title: Re: commander graphics?
Post by: TheArbiter on December 02, 2005, 06:01:58 AM
those are awesome, should make one where he self combusts into a pile of ashes :)
Title: Re: commander graphics?
Post by: Dodger on December 02, 2005, 10:15:04 AM
That is basically what he is doing....only with a bomb...
Title: Re: commander graphics?
Post by: Dodger on December 02, 2005, 10:32:26 AM
Matlu has asked me to make a laughing commander (hahah you failed the 90% Mech, etc ;)).

Can you tell me what it should look like?

You can also comment Guest, as long as you don't say rolling on the floor laughing :)!
Title: Re: commander graphics?
Post by: matlu on December 02, 2005, 11:13:18 AM
ok, you have:

/burger
and
/suicide

There also is  /quit   - but it doesn't show any animation, it just boots you to lobby
Title: Re: commander graphics?
Post by: matlu on December 02, 2005, 03:15:44 PM
Quote from: virtuoso on December 02, 2005, 02:52:08 PM
Now let's get this straight. If i so happen to tell someone that /quit is a new emote, it's not cheating, right?  : P

It's not cheating. (But it's still punished by account deleting and/or banning)
Title: Re: commander graphics?
Post by: The_Gu3st on December 02, 2005, 11:12:47 PM
I think you may want to reconsider the /quit animation. I feel as if it'll bring about a lot more cheating and more contreversies.

Or, you could do this:

once you type /quit, you are prompted with a message that asks "Are you sure you want to leave the game?" to which you can press a "yes" or a "no" button.

That might stop some of the possible cheating.
Title: Re: commander graphics?
Post by: The_Gu3st on December 02, 2005, 11:14:54 PM
As for the laughing commander, it sounds like a good idea... as for what it should look like...no clue.

It seems kinda hard to make such a small figure look as if it is laughing. Perhaps you could make it point at a commander while jerking his head back and forth (The point and laugh type thing).

Title: Re: commander graphics?
Post by: Bakster on December 03, 2005, 01:01:53 AM
Do a cheering commander.
Title: Re: commander graphics?
Post by: The_Gu3st on December 03, 2005, 07:40:02 PM
Quote from: The_Gu3st on December 02, 2005, 11:12:47 PM
I think you may want to reconsider the /quit animation. I feel as if it'll bring about a lot more cheating and more contreversies.

Or, you could do this:

once you type /quit, you are prompted with a message that asks "Are you sure you want to leave the game?" to which you can press a "yes" or a "no" button.

That might stop some of the possible cheating.

Wanted to BUMP this back up so you could see it Matlu.
Title: Re: commander graphics?
Post by: matlu on December 03, 2005, 08:35:20 PM
Quoteonce you type /quit, you are prompted with a message that asks "Are you sure you want to leave the game?" to which you can press a "yes" or a "no" button.

there exist many programs and many games used by milions of people, which have /quit as command to exit, without additional confirmation. (IRC is such program, and hundreds of MUDs are such games).
Really, it seems like overkill to me.
Title: Re: commander graphics?
Post by: The_Gu3st on December 03, 2005, 08:52:54 PM
Example one-

Yesterday in a game I was playing with dodger and some other guy. I used the /suicide emote and he asked me how I did it so I said "Secret :-)"

Then, he went on to experiment, and needless to say, he tried /quit.
Title: Re: commander graphics?
Post by: matlu on December 03, 2005, 09:10:02 PM
first thing is, that are should not be making a secret of it, it's meant to be known to everybody. Second thing is, that he learned what is meaning of /quit and next time he'll know what it does.
Title: Re: commander graphics?
Post by: The_Gu3st on December 03, 2005, 09:12:14 PM
 ;D

Good way of looking at it  :D

And I wasnt gonna keep it a secret, I was just showing off a bit  :P
Title: Re: commander graphics?
Post by: Dodger on December 03, 2005, 11:03:00 PM
Quote from: matlu on December 03, 2005, 09:10:02 PM
first thing is, that are should not be making a secret of it, it's meant to be known to everybody. Second thing is, that he learned what is meaning of /quit and next time he'll know what it does.
That was what I said to him  ;D
Title: Re: commander graphics?
Post by: Dodger on January 03, 2006, 04:41:17 AM
Someone asked me about new emotes...Anything you wanna see?
Title: Re: commander graphics?
Post by: Bakster on January 03, 2006, 02:29:07 PM
Dancing, Prancing, Romancing ;D
Title: Re: commander graphics?
Post by: cparty on January 11, 2006, 12:59:27 AM
cheer and evil smirk
Title: Re: commander graphics?
Post by: Dodger on January 11, 2006, 02:02:40 AM
Can't do the smirk. But I'll look into the cheer.