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I could use some help...
« on: January 24, 2006, 03:37:21 am »
I have currently purchased some webhosting, and now with my newly purchased features I wanted to make a forum and possibly a wiki portion for a site I am developing. The problem is that I have always used free hosting, so I have no experience with php or mysql databases, which I read are the essentials for both a wiki and a forum.

My hosting service provides me with mysql databases and phpmyadmin preinstalled, so thats what I will be using to edit. My question is could anyone help me or point me in the correct direction as to where I could find some tutorials or something.

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Re: I could use some help...
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2006, 04:05:22 am »
I would love to help you. But you dont want it from me.  :-*
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Re: I could use some help...
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2006, 04:06:52 am »
Oh man, DB drama. Is getting tense.

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Re: I could use some help...
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2006, 04:07:48 am »
Oh man, DB drama. Is getting tense.

Who needs daytime tv when you got Blitz and ZZ?  :D
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Re: I could use some help...
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2006, 11:06:07 am »
Regarding forum:
- there exist many open-source forum software packages, you have to pick one and install it. Duelboard uses this one http://www.simplemachines.org/ (but I'm not saying it's good or bad, there maybe exist better or worse, I picked it almost randomly).

The installation should be simple, you just download the installation package, then you have to upload it to your hosting computer and unpack it. To unpack the files you probably need shell / console access to that computer. If you don't have it, you probably have to unpack it on your computer, and upload all the files (there are many of them).
Once it's all uploaded, you'll have to open some html file (maybe something like install.html, you'll have to read the documentation), and it will show some installation form. You'll have to fill in stuff like database password etc, and it should install the forum then.

I remember that I had some issues with file attributes and permissions, so it's possible that you'll need console access anyway (they may call it SSH access). Well you'll probably also need some Unix skills (if it runs unix operating system)

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Re: I could use some help...
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2006, 10:13:27 pm »
I see, I like this forum actually, it has a nice setup.

There is some problems I experience though. The forums I see usually run off mySQL databases, and I have some provided to me by 1and1(hosting company). These are presetup and I'm  not really sure how to hook the forum to the database or configure the database. All the installation instruction try to tell me to type this or set this, and they fail to specify where(I suppose they assume I have some knowledge). Makes me feel like such a noob.

Another concern of mine is that I am not using my own databases. From what I understand you have to transfer files to your webspace that will set up the database using your webspace? 1and1 does not require me to do that, rather they set up the database themselves and I can use it. I still have control over it, but they put limits on the size the database can be then. The limit is 100 MB a database. Will this become a problem for anything I might have on that database?


Some of the stuff I said may not make sense, like I said I really am quite new to all of this.
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Re: I could use some help...
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2006, 10:32:19 pm »
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All the installation instruction try to tell me to type this or set this, and they fail to specify where(I suppose they assume I have some knowledge).


if you have some specific question then ask

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These are presetup and I'm  not really sure how to hook the forum to the database or configure the database

you just have to download forum installation package, upload it to your hosting and unpack it. Then open some installation html file and it should guide you through the rest. You (hopefully) don't have to manipulate the database at all, you'll just have to enter some user name and password to that installation form.

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The limit is 100 MB a database. Will this become a problem for anything I might have on that database?
probably not, unless it becomes very big and active forum with hundreds or thousands of users. In this case you'll probably have to disable attachment uploading, because that's what consume a lot of space. (anyway it will take long time till you have some problem with space)


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Re: I could use some help...
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2006, 05:00:54 pm »
ok, Thanks for the help  :). I haven't been able to try anything lately, school has kept me very busy. I will continue work at a later date, if I need anything else I'll get back to you.

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Re: I could use some help...
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2006, 07:54:17 pm »
I finally installed the forum, and I used SMF. I was wondering though, when setting what members are allow to do, what is the difference between disallow and deny?
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Re: I could use some help...
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2006, 12:17:26 pm »
Yeah, you really could use some help, n00b.  :P

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Re: I could use some help...
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2006, 12:41:14 pm »
I was wondering though, when setting what members are allow to do, what is the difference between disallow and deny?

well, if u disallow something, then your not alowing him to do it
deny is same, but way more harsh, i mean, whats worse? getting disalowed, or DENYED