Ok, I played Cyberwars back in the old castle, and it was my favorite game paired with Battle Thingz. I've since become a spriter, so I made a few things. All 100% from scratch and made pixel by pixel in paint.
First, here is my sentry robot.
(http://img10.exs.cx/img10/3325/sentryrobot8pf.png)
Next, just for fun, is a new commander: (definitely not my best graphic.)
(http://img205.exs.cx/img205/8052/cyberx9jh.png)
I like the robot design very much. One problem.....it needs to be on a black background. I don't know if it will work on a black background.
Oh yeah, you're right. I tried it, and it still looks fine, except his antenna disappears. I'll make it gray later.
Quote from: T3h luggage on March 26, 2005, 01:22:52 AM
Oh yeah, you're right. I tried it, and it still looks fine, except his antenna disappears. I'll make it gray later.
Uh, so many talented people around :) Robot is great (btw the background doesn't really have to be black, it's possible to change it, but black probably looks best...? I'm not sure. Perhaps I could experiment a bit with it)
Commander is also excellent, if he were animated, he would be sure worth appearing in the game
Quote from: matlu on March 26, 2005, 01:39:32 AM
Quote from: T3h luggage on March 26, 2005, 01:22:52 AM
Oh yeah, you're right. I tried it, and it still looks fine, except his antenna disappears. I'll make it gray later.
Uh, so many talented people around :) Robot is great (btw the background doesn't really have to be black, it's possible to change it, but black probably looks best...? I'm not sure. Perhaps I could experiment a bit with it)
Commander is also excellent, if he were animated, he would be sure worth appearing in the game
If it wern't for the fact that it's Megaman X...
robot is nice....seems a bit menacing for a 'sentry' robot tho ;)
That robot isnt from MegaMan X too?
No, the robot isn't. But the megaman X sprite isn't either. I made it, but it is megaman x. Maybe I can edit it to be more commander-y
Quote from: T3h luggage on March 26, 2005, 03:01:14 AM
No, the robot isn't. But the megaman X sprite isn't either. I made it, but it is megaman x. Maybe I can edit it to be more commander-y
I think he looks VERY commander-y, especially wearing this spacesuit... that's something that old cw graphics lacks....
Maybe I should just make it less x-y. OK, I animated my robot with a black background, and I think that it is better without the antenna, so I'll call it final for now.
Quote from: matlu on March 26, 2005, 03:18:09 AM
Quote from: T3h luggage on March 26, 2005, 03:01:14 AM
No, the robot isn't. But the megaman X sprite isn't either. I made it, but it is megaman x. Maybe I can edit it to be more commander-y
I think he looks VERY commander-y, especially wearing this spacesuit... that's something that old cw graphics lacks....
seconded on the spacesuits
Seeing it animated in your sigpic, I love the sentry robot. Weird little dances= teh win.
yeah the animation is ace
Thanks for the comments, guys. Is there anything that you'd like to see made/redone? Post it here.
Edit: I just realised that I forgot to do a dead pose for the sentry. Here is the final sheet:
(http://img202.exs.cx/img202/9927/sentryrobot20qz.png)
try the spider ;D
To speak the truth everything needs to be replaced, except currently the Sentry Robot(thx to you) the BattleMech, and the commanders.
Sorry about not foing the spideroid, but I have no Ideas or inspiration for that one. Instead, I have done the laser robot. I used the same pallette I used for the sentry, and made it's structure similar as well. The animation isn't as good, but it's not very posable. And the dead pose is better
(http://img192.exs.cx/img192/1395/laserrobot1mf.png)
Day-um luggage. You're awesome.
Thanks Rainbow Halk. OK, here is my alein hatchling. I was having problems with my internet, so I couldn't log on earlier.
(http://img229.exs.cx/img229/7990/aleinhatchling8nw.png)
Graphics used for the Sentry Robot look as if it would be the Mechanoid version of a Predator (if I didn't have a predator in my hand that game, I might have thought it was, since I was killed when I first saw it). Pretty good though and perhaps if there is some sort of more powerful two-legged Mechanoid creature below the Battle Mech, it could be used. Laser robot looks interesting, though perhaps it does work when animated. I don't understand the point to the white stuff on the Alien Hatchling though. Quality is truly amazing though. Don't see why many other games put such a great emphasis on things being "real 3d".
Quote from: Odin on March 28, 2005, 09:51:30 PM
I don't understand the point to the white stuff on the Alien Hatchling though. Quality is truly amazing though. Don't see why many other games put such a great emphasis on things being "real 3d".
lol, I understand that "white stuff", but I'm not sure if I can say it in english. It's.... broken egg. It's hatchling, atfer all. The quality is really excellent.
The hatchling looks OK , but if we were going to choose an alien hatchling I would go with the other one that was made. The other one has that crazy little alien feel to it.
http://www.duelboard.com/forum/index.php/topic,62.0.html
Quote from: BlitzJoker on March 28, 2005, 10:37:03 PM
The hatchling looks OK , but if we were going to choose an alien hatchling I would go with the other one that was made. The other one has that crazy little alien feel to it.
http://www.duelboard.com/forum/index.php/topic,62.0.html
Ehm, I like Luggage's graphics more. If it looks nice animated I guess I'll use it.
How is it suppose to attack with it's head in an egg, tail whip?!? I guess I just dislike the egg portion of it.
Quote from: BlitzJoker on March 29, 2005, 12:45:17 AM
How is it suppose to attack with it's head in an egg, tail whip?!? I guess I just dislike the egg portion of it.
You've probably never been hitten by egg? Just try it and you'll see that it hurts :D
Quote from: BlitzJoker on March 29, 2005, 12:45:17 AM
How is it suppose to attack with it's head in an egg, tail whip?!? I guess I just dislike the egg portion of it.
It is supposed to be a weak monster after all. Eggs = fun. Learn math. ::)
But eggs tend to be frail, after one attack its "egg bash" ability would be obsolete, then what would it do?? ;)
Quote from: BlitzJoker on March 29, 2005, 01:01:34 AM
But eggs tend to be frail, after one attack its "egg bash" ability would be obsolete, then what would it do?? ;)
Continue to be naturally weak. Hence the reason to rename it AG!
Quote from: BlitzJoker on March 29, 2005, 12:45:17 AM
How is it suppose to attack with it's head in an egg, tail whip?!? I guess I just dislike the egg portion of it.
Hey, then it could lower enemy defence!
Yeah, white is the hardest color of all to shade. The hatchling isn't nearly my best graphic, it was just an attempt to make a more comical version, inspired by an invincible alein hatchling that I mutated from a droid. It was attacked several times by multiple enemies and yet surviv'ed. I didn't find out untill after I had already made the outline that Halk had already done another one. Maybe a poll would settle which to use...
OK, some animations:
(http://img52.exs.cx/img52/272/laserrobot3kn.gif)
(http://img52.exs.cx/img52/1286/alienhatchling6pj.gif)
Maybe you could make the the arm/cannon thing move back and forth, on the laser robot...? Sort of like a horizontal jackhammer motion, if you get my drift.
not really digging the egg-head
Ok, here cometh my drone, now packed with DRONE-LIKE ARMS!!
(http://img100.exs.cx/img100/9223/drone2hv.png)
I may fix the laser robot animation, if I feel like it, but I warn you, as a spriter, I am by definition lazy.
drone is real nice
Drone is nice, it will be included in next game update.
BTW I noticed one thing. Too many monsters (and commanders) just turn their heads left and right. To have more such monsters on the board looks a bit... funny. They look like soldiers during a practice. Or like a crowd watching a tennis match.
If possible please try to be a bit inventive with these animations. At least make something move its head up and down, or some completely different movement. (For example in old CW some commanders were.. uh.. not sure how to say it in english, such nervous movement with leg, you know what i mean :)
Quote from: matlu on April 03, 2005, 11:22:23 AM
Drone is nice, it will be included in next game update.
BTW I noticed one thing. Too many monsters (and commanders) just turn their heads left and right. To have more such monsters on the board looks a bit... funny. They look like soldiers during a practice. Or like a crowd watching a tennis match.
If possible please try to be a bit inventive with these animations. At least make something move its head up and down, or some completely different movement. (For example in old CW some commanders were.. uh.. not sure how to say it in english, such nervous movement with leg, you know what i mean :)
Indeed, this is the greatest obstacle in making these monsters. How will they move? is too hard a question often to ask myself.
If you have ideas on how a specific monster should move, including on the laser robot(needs way more movement.) I have some good scetches of the spideroid, and some ok ones of the probe, but not much else.
The spideroid should bob up and down - while tapdancing (optional). I already gave a suggestion on the laser robot.. let me know if you need a clearer explanation.
id like some graphs and charts plz
New drone is uploaded & looks cool.
Quote from: T3h luggage on April 03, 2005, 01:42:58 AM
I may fix the laser robot animation, if I feel like it, but I warn you, as a spriter, I am by definition lazy.
I, as programmer, am also by definition lazy. Please just try to overcome your laziness :) The game really needs new graphics as soon as possible, and you seem to have all talents needed.
laser robot, jackhammer motion added.
(http://img259.echo.cx/img259/9648/laserrobot23yw.png)
Getting back into the groove of cyberwars after a short interlude back into megaman style spriting. Spideriod cometh next.
ex\dit:
spideroid finished, animation included.
(http://img257.echo.cx/img257/929/spideroid8rm.png)
my animation program messed up the eyes when I saved it, and the animaition is better on a black background I think, but here.
(http://img257.echo.cx/img257/6501/spideroid5yi.gif)
Nice job, I'll put them online soon.
(secretly hoping you are going to create more :) )
<edit> I tried spideroid and it looks very well when animated
Um...
I don't really like this next graphic, but other's opinions may vary... Please help me on how it should move...
Hovership:
(http://img247.echo.cx/img247/3782/hovership6hy.png)
Oh, and by the way, Matlu, is there a problem with my laser robot?
Quote from: T3h luggage on April 23, 2005, 05:25:06 PM
Oh, and by the way, Matlu, is there a problem with my laser robot?
Hovership looks fine, I'll try how it animates and upload it.
Ehm, laser robot... uh... how to say it ... to be honest, that's only single one piece of all your work, which I somehow don't like, in my opinion it looks bit too complicated. If you just look at it, it's hard to tell what it should depict. Old one is much simplier, but I think it also looks far better. I don't know. Ehm, I guess that I'm just too picky :) I can upload it if people like it :)
Ehm, I hope that you are open to criticism :) One more thing is, that all "corpses" look too similar, and it's hard to distinguish and match them.. at least in my opinion. How example if I saw this hovership and its corpse separately, I would hardly dare to match them together.
But you are really doing great job, I guess I'm just way too perfectionist :)
matlu id really like that robot in the game but thats my opinoin make a pool
Quote from: matlu on April 23, 2005, 05:31:51 PM
Hovership looks fine, I'll try how it animates and upload it.
Ehm, laser robot... uh... how to say it ... to be honest, that's only single one piece of all your work, which I somehow don't like, in my opinion it looks bit too complicated. If you just look at it, it's hard to tell what it should depict. Old one is much simplier, but I think it also looks far better. I don't know. Ehm, I guess that I'm just too picky :) I can upload it if people like it :)
Ehm, I hope that you are open to criticism :) One more thing is, that all "corpses" look too similar, and it's hard to distinguish and match them.. at least in my opinion. How example if I saw this hovership and its corpse separately, I would hardly dare to match them together.
But you are really doing great job, I guess I'm just way too perfectionist :)
Heh, no problems...
I definitely understand with the corpse. I'm just going to take the whole thing from now on, and with the hovership, and make it look destroyed, as opposed to just pieces.
Now, I can understand the laser robot.It is rather complicated, and it's angle makes it a step into more 3-d looking sprites, a field I'm not very good at. It's based off a doodle I drew while I was eating, so I wasn't really all that intent. I think that a "site poll" would see if others share your opinion. If anyone has any suggestions as to how to simplify it, I'll try them and see if it looks better.
OK, remove the red aura, it really stinks. Just fill it in with red.
OK, what should I do next?
Quote from: T3h luggage on April 27, 2005, 12:36:19 AM
OK, remove the red aura, it really stinks. Just fill it in with red.
who complained about aura??I have no problem with it (If you mean hoevrship aura). But of course you can modify it, if you think it will get better.
Quote
OK, what should I do next?
You are welcome to do WHATEVER. Not even half of all monsters is replaced. See "inspiration" topic in "new graphics". The file is also here:
http://www.duelboard.com/inspiration/creatures.png
I complained when I saw how hidous it is...
the hazard of asking for suggestions is that I have gotten the same answer with the same file attached (once through E-mail, though) twice. I mean, I'll so it all eventually, but for now I need to know what to do next. Which ones bug you, and you want gone.
But now I have started a mining droid. It has a big drill on front...
really WHATEVER :)  What about jeep? :) or tank?
ok...
I got some good drawings for the jeep and tank, so I'll prolly do them...
But first, the mining droid:
(http://img201.echo.cx/img201/9152/miningdroid6ah.png)
You couldn't mine with a tiny pick-axe, but you can with a BIG DRILL!
YES more big drillz!
I've noticed that on some of your earlier versions of created monsters that the dead phases looked reasonably similar. It's nice to be able to tell what the dead monster was from the picture.
Quote from: zzboots on April 27, 2005, 04:13:25 AM
I've noticed that on some of your earlier versions of created monsters that the dead phases looked reasonably similar. It's nice to be able to tell what the dead monster was from the picture.
Actually, it's not TOO big issue, because currently you can see information about corpses in quick-info, but anyway it's good to have nice corpses :)
mining droid <= good job
Quote from: matlu on April 27, 2005, 02:51:44 PM
mining droid <= good job
lol have you started ending your sentences with a semi-colon yet?
Quote from: ZAPTONE_Z on April 27, 2005, 09:12:01 PM
lol have you started ending your sentences with a semi-colon yet?
I would never do such silly thing;Â Â ;)
Naw, nobody is THAT stupid;
Well, I couldn't resist trying my favorite creature. I have said it once and I shall say it again:
TENTACLE PWNS ALL! But this graphic, sadly, doesn't. I'm not so good with alein...
(http://img97.echo.cx/img97/2878/tentacle4en.png)
OK, on my to-do list:
face grabber
cyborg.
mutant
tank
hovertank
jeep.
Oh, and matlu, PLEASE remove the aura under the hovership. I logged on as another char to get other's opinions, and others share my sentiments about it...
tentacle is great :)
QuoteOh, and matlu, PLEASE remove the aura under the hovership. I logged on as another char to get other's opinions, and others share my sentiments about it...
Ok, should I edit it myself (it's no problem at all), or have you uploaded modified version somewhere? (cannot find it)
<edit>
ok, forget about it, I already removed the aura :) Will upload it later today or tomorrow
I forgot psywarrior on my to-do list, but that's ok, cuz I already finished it...
I'm actually kinda proud of this one...
(http://img137.echo.cx/img137/1715/psywarrior7kl.png)
Looks better on a white background, though.
QuoteLooks better on a white background, though.
Time to test this "winter" theme :)
Quote from: matlu on May 03, 2005, 12:22:02 AM
Time to test this "winter" theme :)
Ahh please no winter theme!!!! :'(
wow pis dude is real good
Quote from: ZAPTONE_Z on May 03, 2005, 05:23:34 AM
wow pis dude is real good
It's psi by the way not pis
nope
its an old joke between my brother and me
piss dudes
umm.... okay
OK, another double update:
(http://img207.echo.cx/img207/7727/psilord6yz.png)
The long (a whole day! A DAY, CRABBIT!) awaited Psi Lord, and
(http://img207.echo.cx/img207/8237/facegrabber2kp.png)
A face grabber.
nice
Excellent quality, thank you
Luggage you psi dudes are quite amazing...your are definitely a pro at this stuff!
Thanks, Blitz. I think that I'm getting better at humans.
Here is a tank I made in a hurry day before yesterday, which I finished today. It's not all that good, but not terrible.
(http://img178.echo.cx/img178/3900/tank6ag.png)
i like it good job
Thanks. here is a new commander, I can't remember if we need anymore...
I'll do light-sabre, blaster and symbiont sometime too.
(http://img194.echo.cx/img194/9306/commander0ot.png)
We don't exactly need new ones. But It might be able to run against the current commanders. Although I have gotten used to them(except the superhero one :-\, which should be changed)
Commanders have to be replaced as well, but it's not a priority
- there are still 2 "jagex" commanders
- sadly, also "monkey" commanders are stolen (person who donated them claimed they are not, but they are, I found them on other page, just slightly modified.) But I don't think the person who originally created them would go after me so it's less-or-more ok
ehm... and.... except monsters... there is still fortress, beacons and forcefield :)
I had a feeling like I have seen the monkey commanders before......what site where they on?
Hi agian, it's been a while. I have been working on other spriting projects recently, so, yeah. Here is a mutant. I liked the first one, but it turned out hard to animate.
(http://img117.echo.cx/img117/3663/mutant6fn.gif)
(http://img33.echo.cx/img33/8154/mutant2yy.png)
Wow looks great. Keep up the good work! :)
I like the dead phase most
Wow luggage, these are tremendous. But i couldnt help but notice that the mutant looks awfully like "The Beast" from beauty and the beast.
I cant beleive this post has 78 replies.
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can u do alien queen next?
I dont think he's been here for a while. Maybe hes working on some huge project, but yeah, Alien Queen would be nice!
Quote from: HellsRage666 on May 29, 2005, 04:36:21 PM
I dont think he's been here for a while. Maybe hes working on some huge project, but yeah, Alien Queen would be nice!
T3h is more of the tech kind of guy. But it would be interesting to see how he crosses over. Blade has made some nice life monsters, bug her. :P
I think that Alien Queen is very big challenge, because original is just... too good :)
QuoteT3h is more of the tech kind of guy. But it would be interesting to see how he crosses over. Blade has made some nice life monsters, bug her.
I agree that T3h Luggage seems to be a tech kind of guy. I guess I can think about doing some more life monsters.
I've not been around much recently because it seems to me that nothing is safe at the moment. I don't want to invest loads of time (in playing or spriting) and then find I don't like it any more. It could happen. I'll think about it, anyway.
Quote from: HellsRage666 on May 29, 2005, 04:36:21 PM
I dont think he's been here for a while. Maybe hes working on some huge project, but yeah, Alien Queen would be nice!
Yeah, I havn't been here for a while. But I'm sorry to say, I havn't been working on any big projects. simply, I'm on break now, and I've been doing other things. But I'll do something. In fact, I'll do the next creature someone posts...
remember, I sprite in 3 styles, under 3 different nicks, so I'm a busy guy.
alien queen!
Probe....make it have real probing actions :D
:P he said he will do the very next post so poo on you gut!
OK, I tried the queen, and it didn't turn out at all...
(http://img19.echo.cx/img19/9455/alienqueen14qq.png)
I'll try again tomorrow.
Seems to be updside down ??? Nice quality tough
She's great :) I think I would really prefer the eyes on the top and mounth on the bottom (I'm kinda conservative ;) ) but it's really great.
yeah. the reason I had it like that was when I was doing the outline, I had the eye, tentacles, and body, but no mouth, and I thought, well, it is an alien, so who says it has to be built right side up by earth standards?
Looks outstanding congrats luggage. PLEASE DO PROBE NEXT. REAL PROBING ACTIONS TOO!
So should I re-do the queen or not?
Ok, gUt, I'll do the probe next. I have some good drawings of it...
Quote from: T3h luggage on June 06, 2005, 03:00:16 AM
So should I re-do the queen or not?
Ok, gUt, I'll do the probe next. I have some good drawings of it...
Please do
Quote from: T3h luggage on June 06, 2005, 03:00:16 AM
So should I re-do the queen or not?
I believe she needs a 'dead' phase.
Aaaand, I guess I would really prefer to have the eye on the top..but.. in the end it's up to you.
Definitly try and change the eye/ mouth problem... but wow luggage... that is amazing. I didnt think you would be able to pull it off....
Your choice: wierd mouth, or cieling walker...
(http://img171.echo.cx/img171/5719/aq36ai.png)
Really, I didn't do so well on it, but that's the best I can do now. I won't be here from tomorrow to wednesday (not this wednesday, next wednesday.
Weird mouth definitly... ceiling walker would look awkward.
Here is dead phase...
(http://img248.echo.cx/img248/6641/aqdead8jb.png)
Well, I have nothing against ceiling walker, looks quite .. ORIGINALÂ Â ;)Â I take it
NOOOO! I SAY TAKE A POLL THEN! i like the weird mouth one much better than ceiling walker >:(
I think Matlu here is using what is called a "joke", the same as the ceiling walker was in the first place...
edit: I hope...
Quote from: T3h luggage on June 06, 2005, 11:27:11 PM
I think Matlu here is using what is called a "joke", the same as the ceiling walker was in the first place...
edit:Â I hope...
Unfortunately... I was serious :) I don't mind ceiling walker, and I don't want to bother you with extra work
maybe the ceiling walker can be its own monster :P
just a suggestion i mean hes already made it
o yea matlu i never told you, but i am very good at making graphics liek this. If you want me to do some work on something post which monster you want me to do.
Quote from: raikoukami on June 07, 2005, 12:53:52 AM
maybe the ceiling walker can be its own monster :P
just a suggestion i mean hes already made it
I just noticed that raikoukami said that. I think thats a friggin great idea add the ceiling walker as a new monster. You could make it have like 7 strength, 7 defense, and 4 movement points, and let it have a range attack of like 5 and 4 range str, like the laser robot. Would be fair to the aliens to have a strong range attack monster. Also would be cool to see a new monster on cyber battles.
Quote from: SiR gUt on June 09, 2005, 01:38:20 AM
I just noticed that raikoukami said that. I think thats a friggin great idea add the ceiling walker as a new monster. You could make it have like 7 strength, 7 defense, and 4 movement points, and let it have a range attack of like 5 and 4 range str, like the laser robot. Would be fair to the aliens to have a strong range attack monster. Also would be cool to see a new monster on cyber battles.
No one seems to understand the game is on a fragile balance of monsters, no new ones should be added.
My suggestion would be to draw hover tank next, to go with the tank. And I did a probe ages ago - it just got overlooked.
(Edited to add) Droid and Jeep afterwards! I believe that would finish off the mechanoid-units.
(Edit 2)
QuoteI think thats a friggin great idea add the ceiling walker as a new monster.
QuoteNo one seems to understand the game is on a fragile balance of monsters, no new ones should be added.
Maybe Ceiling Walker could be the new name for the Alien Queen :D?
Had an ok (not great) hover tank posted on the last board somewhere; no time to look, so can sum1 drag it up 4me?
(Ed. I know - v. similar to my last post.)
Quote from: Blitzjoker
No one seems to understand the game is on a fragile balance of monsters, no new ones should be added.
noone notices it because, though it sounds good, it isn't true. mechanoid>alien. simple. is too bad.
Quote from: SiR GuTo yea matlu i never told you, but i am very good at making graphics liek this. If you want me to do some work on something post which monster you want me to do.
why post that here? If you want to say that, make a graphic and post your own thread...
Quote from: T3h luggage on June 12, 2005, 11:05:28 PM
noone notices it because, though it sounds good, it isn't true. mechanoid>alien. simple. is too bad.
why post that here? If you want to say that, make a graphic and post your own thread...
So what mechaniod monsters can't be attacked by anything but range, or monsters of that type???
Although there is more(but for times sake I'll give you the basic), mech has things with higher stats, while aliens have their slimes. For every one races advantage, the other races will have a different but equal in value advantage.
Pound for pound, I've always seen alien as having stronger monsters, and mech as having a stronger support function (force armour, teleport, etc.).
Quote from: BlitzJoker on June 13, 2005, 02:02:12 PM
So what mechaniod monsters can't be attacked by anything but range, or monsters of that type???
Although there is more(but for times sake I'll give you the basic), mech has things with higher stats, while aliens have their slimes. For every one races advantage, the other races will have a different but equal in value advantage.
Slimes aren't really that good. They have average stats at best, and can be easily killed by almost anything with ranged attack.
Plus, the alien queen isn't very strong either. I mean, what is it, 8/8 stats? Even with the B. Mech having a lower res. and speed, it isn't as good...
Ehh not only are the monsters balanced, but there is also a balance of things to kill each other, adding a new monster would throw this balance off. Lets just state the more obvious ones, cause im not going to study the intracate workings of CB ;). Lets say you have a spider after you(having the longest movemnt of 6) you have teleport(movement of 7) to conteract that. You have an alien queen after you, you can use a B.Mech(higher stats) to kill it. Then your opponent have a B.Mech after him, he could take advantage of its low restance and use mind control. In other words everything has its weak point and an action that will be proficient in taking advantage of its weak part. This is how Cyber Wars "just worked", they carefully put thought into it....they didnt just say "hey lets throw in this monster". I hope that makes it a little clearer.
Spider doesn't have any weakness apart from B Mech, and what if you don't have one?
The aliens already have 3 strong monsters (Tentacle, AQ and Pred) we don't need another one ???
this is all quite silly, as there is no chance that the cieling crawler can be used as a monster. It was a JOKE! Treat it as such. You might as well make the tentacle's death stage a plate of fried calimari.
Take this argument to the 'General' board.
This section is for graphics.
and, from what I've seen from my alien queen in-game, bad ones as well... I need ot fix that last animation phase. And start trying my graphics in animation before I post 'em again...
I wrote a mini "animator" program that takes the image and displays its animated form, without going through the hassle of making an animated gif for it. (It doesn't check the image size, so when I'm working on an animation, I put my current version in the top-left of the image so it gets animated, and use the area below it and to the right to work in.) It's been very helpful to my spriting here, but I wrote it in C/Allegro, which is rubbish for distributing... maybe Java would be better, though it has its own set of difficulties.
If you happen to be a programmer, you could write your own ;). It took me about 10 minutes for the C one, and it must have saved me an hour already.
I have animation shop, but thanks for the thought. Sorry, but I don't think I may post anything for a while. I've been busy, but I'll try. I may even get something in tonight...
I have Animation Shop too. (I use it to make the final GIF for display.) It takes me a couple of minutes each time to prepare the animation from my working-bitmap. I'd guess it would be the same for you, unless you edit in Animation Shop? That would work, if you can stand it.
OK, here is an update AQ, it should animate better...
(http://img154.echo.cx/img154/6330/aq41wl.png)
OK, I'm back from vacation with a vengence, yadda yadda and all that stuff...
OK, I got some good drawings for the droid, and some others as well. I hope to have the droid posted tomorrow or the day after.
OK, I've worked my magic.
(http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/5656/droid5mo.png)
Whatcha think? Oh, and matlu, what is the length for each frame of animation? I need to know to tell if it will animate in-game. It works at 20, and better at 30.
Probably it is 26. So it is closer to 30 than to 20.
OK, here: (http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6710/droid3ln.gif)
OK, I've decided that I'ma spend a little time going through my older graphics, and touching them up. Just tell me if any of them annoy you. I will start with the hover car.
OK, I know a lot of people hate the hovership. Me included. So I made a new one. I started by editing the old one, but I couldn't really work in that perspective, so I made this:
(http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8889/hovership25sx.png)
Took surprizingly little time.
I like it, but is there anyway you could like slant it a bit? Like maybe so the nose looks like its slightly facing towards us and the back end is going slighty back. Just a suggestion, feel free to flame it.
I agree with The_gu3st, it looks a bit 2D, tilt it a fraction.
I think the current hovership looks good :-[
Quote from: Bakster on July 28, 2005, 02:58:23 PM
I think the current hovership looks good :-[
I'm glad that you do, but I hear all the time "I like your graphics,
but I hate the hovership." I don't like it much either. When I
made it, I was concerned that all my graphics were at the same angle, and I chose an angle not used, but very hard to get good results in.
OK, If
I have this right, you want it to be angled a bit more towards the veiwer? It is already a bit, but I can do it more...
Edit: OK, I think I see my problem... This better?
(http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/7734/hovership30ke.png)
Im not quite sure i see the difference... it just looks bigger.
What is the difference? I meant at more of an angle, to look like the front of the hovercraft is facing the viewer slightly.
atm it looks kinda flat, but i like it better than the other :D
I fixed the trim on the front, so you can see more clearly that it's tilted towards the viewer.
hmm... i dunno, it didnt really make much of a difference. Cant you make it look any more 3D? This one looks very flat becuase its so straight. What i mean is make it look like the nose of the hovership is slighty facing towards us.
This better?
(http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6525/hovership2much8pn.png)
Really though, what you ask is difficult. I'm not exactly sure how I'd do it.
haha lol... the keyword in it was *slightly*, try like a mediation between that one and your first one.
Okay, I guess the hovership is fine, except for one slight thing. When it is beamed down in a 2 player, it looks like the hovership is fying backwards to the second player, while the 2nd player is flying normally. Is there any way to reverse the direction of the hovership after a certain line
Is that really such a big problem? Cant you just use your imagination? ;)
Its not that bad but that was the reason I was trying to get him to make it so it looks more 3D by facing the nose of the ship slightly towards the user. That would solve the problem
You mean like the old old one? The first one?
Perhaps I'll make yet another version of it, after all the graphics are replaced. For now I have a tentative cyborg. I don't really know if it animates or not, as I don't have animation shop on this computer. If someone would check I would appriciate it.
(http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/5978/cyborg21vw.png)
That looks sweet!
Nice cyborg. I think adding a bit more metal to the face would improve it.
yepo, try some metal on t3h face
Stop saying t3h!
I like it, does look a bit commander like tho. maybe more metal, or clear contrasts between metal and flesh?
yeah t3h body is very commander like. use t3h metal to define t3h difference between t3h two materials.
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4m 1 5upp053d 70 c4r3? :p
:'(
Quote from: Dodger on August 02, 2005, 02:53:17 AM
Stop saying t3h!
NEVER!!!!11
Anyway, About half of his face and hair are metal. But if you insist.
(http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/1184/cyborg31bp.png)
That's an improvement. Perhaps still one more pixel of metal on the left side of his mask?
What makes Douglas the "Master of English" anyway? Just because he writes letters for every post...
I always thought that was kinda a waste of time...and space.
Howdy Doodie!
He is the "master of english" because he says bye to people with things like "toodles" and hello to people with things like "Howdy doodie". This is also why he is my idol. If there is anything I can ever do for your dougie fell free to "asky me" and i will be your loyal "slavey".
TOODLES!!!
The_Guest
It's just his style. Nothing wrong with it; nothing special about it. Some people seem overly impressed with him, which is kind of annoying, but that's their prerogative. :P
Isn't "Howdy" a cowboy word...and cowboys come from America... :P
No, cowboys came from Japan in the early 18th century.
They came from japan?! weird...
It's hard to imagine Japanese people in cowboy clothes and swinging a lasso around...
They used lassos and big cowboy boots, and rode horses and stuff. The only difference was the hats. They wore those samurai hat things. The cowboy hats of today were an attempt to copy that. But instead of totally copying it, they made changes for comfort and style, producing the unique cowboy hats we know today.
I would yell at you guys to stay on topic, but hey, it adds more pages to my thread, plus it's amusing.
McCool i think you are mistaken on the cowboys comming from Japan.......quite mistaken. Read more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowboy
Quote from: BlitzJoker on August 07, 2005, 12:19:39 AM
McCool i think you are mistaken on the cowboys comming from Japan.......quite mistaken. Read more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowboy
dude, if was obviously a joke. Japan hadn't even been
invented back then.
I didn't exactly feel like killing my braincells reading all that rubbish....I simply skimmed it. ::)
So I apologize for not noticing.
Can I get a w00t w00t for Spain?!
Quote from: BlitzJoker on August 07, 2005, 04:03:10 AM
I didn't exactly feel like killing my braincells reading all that rubbish....I simply skimmed it. ::)
So I apologize for not noticing.
The very idea of cowboys coming from japan is obviously a joke. I don't think you need to worry about my posts having a detrimental effect on your brain cells. ;)
No w00t w00t's for Spain? Damn you all.
What About Cowboys!? >:( "I live in Montana"
Quote from: TheArbiter on August 11, 2005, 02:07:27 PM
What About Cowboys!? >:( "I live in Montana"
W00t W00t Montana!
Anyway, thanks to Bladesabre's most helpful graphics summarry, I decided to finall touch up the psy-guys.
(http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/3834/psywarrior28es.png)
No more chibi head, slight fix to the hands
(http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/158/psylord27un.png)
fixed up the cape and stance.
Here is an updated version of the commander...
(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5240/commander29bf.gif)
In ohter news, I will no longer double post in this thread.
What's different about this commander? When did you double post before?
Quote from: Dodger on September 02, 2005, 12:11:28 AM
What's different about this commander? When did you double post before?
Different movements. The older version's were rather awkward. It's more of an update...
When I said I wasn't going to double post any more, I meant that I wont post new stuff untill I get at least one reply.
i dont really see the differences.
Why don't you make a new graphic?
Quote from: The_Gu3st on September 02, 2005, 04:39:21 AM
i dont really see the differences.
Why don't you make a new graphic?
Why don't I do the next one someone posts that's still the origional? I don't really have much of an incentive to work right now, though, as Matlu has yet to implemement a number of my updates...
QuoteWill he ever post again? No one cares.
Quote from: T3h luggage on September 02, 2005, 04:42:17 AM
I don't really have much of an incentive to work right now, though, as Matlu has yet to implemement a number of my updates...
From the looks of it, I think T3h luggage is experiencing a feeling of being unappreciated. I can see why :(. ..........*/hug*Â :-* (<---this was meant in a non-homo erotic way)
I will say I am envious of your expertise in graphic creations.
I'd say Predator next, my vote is it would look best staying a dark color like gray, instead of being changed to green or something.
I think you might be right... and I do think everyone owes a thanks.
Not only to him, but to bladesabre and to anyone else who's contributed to CB.
Thanks
Thanks all
Teh luggage, your improved commander is better and I will put him in the game... on tuesday or so. It's not possible at the moment, I'm on .. uh.. vacation at the moment :) I'm not in the country where I normaly live and I don't have properly equiped computer here
Quote from: BlitzJoker on September 02, 2005, 04:58:31 AM
From the looks of it, I think T3h luggage is experiencing a feeling of being unappreciated. I can see why :(. ..........*/hug* :-* (<---this was meant in a non-homo erotic way)
I will say I am envious of your expertise in graphic creations.
I'd say Predator next, my vote is it would look best staying a dark color like gray, instead of being changed to green or something.
I was just noticing that I hadn't posted here in along time, being busy wit other forums...
OK, to work on pred. I will keep it's design basically the same, won't make it's face upside down or somthing...Like I would
ever do that ::)
Edit: here's your Predgitar
(http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/4010/predguitar3ly.gif)
Wait, you said pre
dit
er! Oh well, is better, much better!
Lol nice! I say we use that :D
Quote from: Dodger on September 04, 2005, 02:41:42 AM
Lol nice! I say we use that :D
It is the result of air-gitarish arm movements in my first attempt at a predator, and the overall it-didn't-turn-out-well-ishness resulted in the making of this. It's not very serious, but less serious things (like femal commander) have been put in, or at least hack ceilingcoughwalkerhack considered. ;)
Lol i was joking. Best to be clear on that :P
Quote from: Dodger on September 04, 2005, 02:54:19 AM
Lol i was joking. Best to be clear on that :P
Me too. Let us never speak of this, lest Matlu get ideas...
Definitly need to be an in-game animation.. so do the emoticons/actions of the commanders dodger has made.
I don't think Matlu will implement my animations...unless you bug him incessantly!
The predgitar should definately be used!
hm........... that pred is funny. :D i say we make the pred like the xeno's in the aliens movies, but different so we won't be infringing any copywrights. good idea?
I like the ingame pred... if u just added like one of those "fin type things" onto his back that would be cool. Or maybe a horn? lol.
Got anymore graphics? Why is no-one keen to do the subspace beacon, or fortress?
take the gitar away make the pred look a lil mroe evil and then matlu shud use it :)
Definatly.
^ Will that fit? Into the game?
Quote from: The_Gu3st on September 15, 2005, 01:42:58 AM
^ Will that fit? Into the game?
I tried. I don't know it it would've fit theme-wise, but it didn't fit spacewize... but I was able to put my commander's head on the armor, to make a force armor or something... (http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/718/forcearmor5pa.png)
Quote from: anima on September 15, 2005, 05:33:37 PM
Of course it would fit theme wise! Its a freakin' alien man!
As for size, im sure some skilled artist could make a small, yet detailed predator. It doesnt have to be to detailed. Remember, predator had a mask, so that could be used instead of the complicated face.
Flip flop! John Kerry! ;D
Really, thoughm, I guess I could give it another try...
Edit: 5-minute quickie
(http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/193/predator24yr.png)
Quote from: anima on September 16, 2005, 12:23:07 AM
Nice attempt but it's looking a lil mech now. Maybe its body should be exposed (less armour) and limbs should be more humanoid. Perhaps it shouldnt have a mask after all. Try a small mouth of some sort, red eyes and a textured face. I suggest you research the creature more and see what you can come up with.
BTW, im a big fan of your work ;)
Yeah, one problem is that the predator is quite techish. It got all sorts of new-fangled contraptions...
Quote from: anima on September 16, 2005, 06:41:12 PM
Well that's kinda true. Thats why i suggested exposing more of his humanoid body. His dread locks look great :D
Really bad example (hey im no artist :D) , but something along the lines of this.
Hmm, i see what you mean now, so hard to design an effective character, in such little space.
I thought that the schwarzenegger predator had grey skin...
haha i could find a mini predator online, im pretty sure
OK, I'm back to making a few graphics, but I prolly wont do too many, or too close together. Here is a lightsabre I did, with 2 different animations. The one where the head turns is a bit too choppy, but I like how it turned out. The other is less choppy, but less move-ey(?). You decide!
(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/888/beamsabre4jb.gif)
(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/6167/beamsabre29in.gif)
The 1st one for t3h win!
Nice to have you back luggage.
is there any way to program. when commander has upgrade for force shield and sabre it combines to one and you see commander with shield and sabre or force armour and sabre?
Nice graphic, congrats. :)
OK, one of the graphics I've noticed that nobody has proposed stuff for (I think, don't hurt me if I'm wrong) is the Mutant Mount. Now, before I had no inspiration, but since everyone has been talking about elephants...
(http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/1808/mutantmount2sm.png)
Quotebut since everyone has been talking about elephants...
people will love this graphics :)
p.s. we also need dead elephant
:o
I love Luggage more than Dodger now.
(http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7185/mutantmount6dx.png)
I also did a tentacle today at school, but it's going to be a while before I will be able to get it on the internet. I was greatly inspired by The Arbiter's wonderful tentacle when I made it.
edit: Also edited and completed the force armor.
(http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/8016/forcearmor26yx.png)
(http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/5593/forcearmor0rq.gif)
Wow! Amazing I love them both! Congratulations :)
Dodger is jealous :P
lookin good..... :o
I love all your stuff man, keep it up ;D
I have a few queries about the new Mutant Mount.
1. It looks too "medieval", if that is the right word.
2. The animation sucks, it moves up and right/left with no leg movement.
3. Elephants are overrated
And the new force armour is a bit hard to see...the colours dont blend well.
Quote from: Bakster on January 29, 2006, 08:43:47 PM
I have a few queries about the new Mutant Mount.
1. It looks too "medieval", if that is the right word.
2. The animation sucks, it moves up and right/left with no leg movement.
3. Elephants are overrated
And the new force armour is a bit hard to see...the colours dont blend well.
1: I can see kinda what you mean, but remember, these is aleins without technology as we would think of it, is all organic, so what might seem low-tech to us is different to them. And I don't know the last time I saw a green elephant-like creature with a tentacle instead of a nose plowing through mideval europe. ;) Not that I've ever seen mideval europe period.
2: If it does that, It's animation bugs, not purposeful movements. I can try and fix that.
3: :P You have a point (Rhinos are better! XD!)
4: You mean I need more contrast? I may give that a try.
Quote2: If it does that, It's animation bugs, not purposeful movements. I can try and fix that.
In fact I already sligthly modified Motant mount graphics before I used it into game - the original version had quite jerky forth and back movements, I just made it a bit smoother. But you should probably edit it yourself again, because I apparently made it worse :)
1: I can see kinda what you mean, but remember, these is aleins without technology as we would think of it, is all organic, so what might seem low-tech to us is different to them. And I don't know the last time I saw a green elephant-like creature with a tentacle instead of a nose plowing through mideval europe. ;) Not that I've ever seen mideval europe period.
Elephants have trunks, which are too similar to tentacles to make out the difference, especially in a teeny weeny pixel graphic.
2: If it does that, It's animation bugs, not purposeful movements. I can try and fix that.
3: :P You have a point (Rhinos are better! XD!)
Yeah, I'd like to see Dodger create a rhino emote!!
4: You mean I need more contrast? I may give that a try.
Maybe........ ???
Anyway, the dark red blends with the black background too much, and there is no outline to the armor.
1 But, is still green and has wierd ears and huge yellow claws.
3: I may do one, just for fun.
4: It has an outline, is just that it's black...Which I suppose is the same as having no outline... :-\
Loving the elephant, besides the animation part.
Force armor needs work, possibly a "glowing" outline or something? Or a lighter shade of red for the body?
Luggage, check your mailbox for a possible new eye.
Here's the base, but I don't think I can animate it.
Lemme get some feedback.
(http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/7158/eyeoutline8jh.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
There's already a new eye. And I like it. And it should stay baby blue anyway :). Cute but deadly. :)
Oh I'm sorry, did I ask for your opinion?
Revised eye (having trouble with the dead phase. Help me luggage?)
(http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/3365/eyedb6dn.png) (http://imageshack.us)
Edit: Looked at it, I don't like that "twinkle" thing. Edit it when I get home.
Original:
(http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/7158/eyeoutline8jh.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
your eye looks to old and crusty and looks like its dead already, you suck guest.
Oh I'm sorry, did I ask for your opinion? No. :P
You all suck. The rest of the things are too hard to make.
The normal eye can't be beaten. Especially not by you ;)
Hard luck Guest ;D The people have spoken :-*
Man, you guys are pretty cruel... :-\
The eye is indeed pretty cool, but there is no way I could animate it. It's been so heavily shaded in photoshop, there's nothing I could do to it in paint.
Quote from: Dodger on February 01, 2006, 12:46:32 AM
Hard luck Guest ;D The people have spoken :-*
:'( I quit. I hate your graphics too, especially your dumb emotes which I never ever use. Not even if my life depended on it. Butthead.
*Mumbles* He'sssss just jealousssssss that you have more pointssssss my precious. Just jealousssss...*mumbles*
Quote from: T3h luggage on February 01, 2006, 01:11:25 AM
Man, you guys are pretty cruel... :-\
The eye is indeed pretty cool, but there is no way I could animate it. It's been so heavily shaded in photoshop, there's nothing I could do to it in paint.
And no prob anyways, these dumbos don't like it either way so its a lost cause.
Quote from: The_Gu3st on January 31, 2006, 03:53:27 AM
Loving the elephant, besides the animation part.
Force armor needs work, possibly a "glowing" outline or something? Or a lighter shade of red for the body?
Just curious if you planned on editting the force armor and the elephant animation.
Quote from: The_Gu3st on February 01, 2006, 02:14:26 AM
Just curious if you planned on editting the force armor and the elephant animation.
I plan on it.
(Eventually) :)
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Quote from: The_Gu3st on February 01, 2006, 01:26:56 AM
:'( I quit. I hate your graphics too, especially your dumb emotes which I never ever use. Not even if my life depended on it. Butthead.
*Mumbles* He'sssss just jealousssssss that you have more pointssssss my precious. Just jealousssss...*mumbles*
lmao :D. Did I say I didn't like it? Noooo. I just prefer the blue one :). Next time use MSPaint. :)
Be quiet you poo-poo head.
hey guest, I remember your the one who told me how to use the emotes, and i usually see you use them quite often.
Please create new thread if you want to discuss emotes or just insult each other.
I don't think that T3h luggage appreciates such off topic posts in his thread.
Here is a brightened version of the force armor. Hope it is better. (http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/3710/forcearmorbright2rn.png)
Better, but it needs an outline of some sort....and perhaps a little more brighter.
Could you outline it in red or something? To make it have a glowing effect like the old one?
is that a glowing heart in the center??
Why was this never implemented?
Quote from: Dodger on February 13, 2006, 12:38:59 AM
Why was this never implemented?
prolly because it doesn't animate or really look that good? ;)
Quote from: The_Gu3st on February 11, 2006, 11:50:13 PM
Could you outline it in red or something? To make it have a glowing effect like the old one?
I tried it before and it didn't look too good, but I could try again.
BTW, it does have a considerably lighter red outline now.
In other news, I posted this before, and it appears to have not come through or dissapeared. Strange, It's happened to me before.